Please recommend a private and secure email client

The Tourist · 24 Jun 2018 at 20:54

Do any of you guys have recommendations for an email client that you think is private and secure?

Currently I pay for email hosting, so I know the company and servers where my emails are stored and I choose to trust them. The only issue is that, from a usability standpoint, the email client that I actually use to access my emails is terrible; both on the desktop and mobile app.

While I'm satisfied with the privacy and security of my current email client, I just can't be as productive as I need to be with it, so I'm looking for another, much better option. I expect I'll have to pay for this service though as I know that 'free' email clients are paid for with your personal information that has been obtained by scanning/data mining your emails.

MookJong · 24 Jun 2018 at 20:56

ProtonMail

Pawnless Endgame · 24 Jun 2018 at 21:21

Incredimail

Jimbeam3678 · 24 Jun 2018 at 21:58

Am I missing something here? Why not simply use Outlook?

Pho · 24 Jun 2018 at 21:59

Exchange Online (£3/month) to host your domain's email + Outlook (desktop and mobile) or Outlook webmail. All excellent. Exchange Online is run by Microsoft, it will be rock solid and properly managed.

Or use ProntonMail if you need tin-foil hat level of privacy

jpaul · 24 Jun 2018 at 22:45

...we recently discussed in s/w Move away from Gmail

Ugley_Matt · 24 Jun 2018 at 22:53

Hilary? Is that you?

Kol · 24 Jun 2018 at 23:04

jpaul said:
...we recently discussed in s/w Move away from Gmail

Why?

Armageus · 24 Jun 2018 at 23:31

Kol said:
Why?

No idea - works fine for our business.

But then again I don't need tinfoil hat level of privacy

dowie · 24 Jun 2018 at 23:39

The Tourist said:
Do any of you guys have recommendations for an email client that you think is private and secure?

What do you mean re: private and secure?

I mean for example does gmail not satisfy your requirements - if not why not? Is there a requirement for your e-mails to be encrypted or something?

The Tourist · 24 Jun 2018 at 23:53

Thanks everyone for your replies

I'm actually sitting here with a finely crafted tinfoil hat securely atop my head inside a Faraday Cage, you can never be to paranoid...

Rannoch · 24 Jun 2018 at 23:59

Pawnless Endgame said:
Incredimail

Nice. Just ditching Outlook as we speak

Cromulent · 25 Jun 2018 at 00:16

Outlook 2016 (not sure about earlier versions) lets you send encrypted emails which should satisfy your privacy worries. The only problem is you need to have either an Exchange Online account or an Office 365 account.

You can always manually encrypt your emails if you use a decent email client using GnuPG and that will work with any email provider. The only problem is you need to exchange public keys with everyone you want to send encrypted email to otherwise they won't be able to decrypt them. While encrypting emails is the ultimate form of email privacy it is also the hardest to implement because everyone needs to make public / private key pair and you need to share around public keys. Most people end up using key servers for that.

Edit: You can use Gmail and encrypt all of your emails. It just matters what email client you use not the email provider. If the emails are encrypted by your client, Google won't be able to read them as they will be encrypted before they even reach Googles servers.

[FnG]magnolia · 25 Jun 2018 at 02:17

jpaul said:
...we recently discussed in s/w Move away from Gmail

This'll be good

Jimbeam3678 · 25 Jun 2018 at 07:13

jpaul said:
...we recently discussed in s/w Move away from Gmail

Why ?

Kol · 25 Jun 2018 at 07:27

Armageus said:
No idea - works fine for our business.

But then again I don't need tinfoil hat level of privacy

Same, works great.

I know the 'free' version might use email content for personalisation but in this context it's irrelevant as the OP has his own domain so will use a paid version, which doesn't use email content.

jpaul · 25 Jun 2018 at 08:35

Kol said:
Why?

? ....->

Eddie182 said:
FastMail mapped to your own domain has my vote. I've recently switch from gmail/iCloud and the setup was beyond simple, as was transferring emails. I find FastMail's web UI to be outstanding, user friendly than gmail, and way better than iCloud.

AHarvey said:
Why not just approach a small but established ISP, buy a domain and use their email hosting?

I used to use these guys, small company, been going over 10 years.
http://www.aquiss.net/

GravyMonster · 25 Jun 2018 at 08:44

That's just providing alternatives, not answering the question.

Hyburnate · 25 Jun 2018 at 08:45

Even encrypted hosts won’t definitely confirm that every hop of the way is encrypted.

Unless you do the above email is not a secure method of transmission.

Kol · 25 Jun 2018 at 09:21

jpaul said:
? ....->

I don't get your confusion; you've not answered what is a very simple question. Where is the reasoning behind the conclusion to 'move away from gmail' ? I don't see anything that helps any of us in this thread. We have one user's opinion so far and an irrelevant quote... ?