Two things:The_KiD said:Re: WinXP Firewall
ZDNet said:Don't let any prompts fool you: Even though it tells you a program has initiated a connection to the Internet and asks if you want to allow this connection, the connection has already occurred. What it's really asking is whether you want to allow the Internet to connect to this program.
If that's your requirment, stick with WinXP firewall as it does that anyway, apparantly. Isn't the idea of spyware and trojans infections that the user doesn't know they are infected, hence outbound protection required?AdladUK said:Do you know if it's possible to turn off it asking about outgoing applications please?
I would like to allow all outbound application requests, as I know I haven't got any spyware/trojan installed.
Bane said:I liked Sygate. You have to source it from download sites like Tucows.
Sygate allows you the option to block all things, such as Windows files that most of the other software firewall allow through.
spinneR~uk said:If that's your requirment, stick with WinXP firewall as it does that anyway, apparantly. Isn't the idea of spyware and trojans infections that the user doesn't know they are infected, hence outbound protection required?
Then why bother at all?AdladUK said:Well if people are careless enough to get spyware and trojans on their machines, what makes you think they are smart enough to click 'no' when prompted by their firewall?
Most people just click 'yes' to stuff, as it's the easy option.
Final8y said:Yep comodo is very good. just hope the vista version comes out soon.
spinneR~uk said:Then why bother at all?
spinneR~uk said:Two things:
1) It really fustrates me they don't inform you of the source or research that justifies that conclusion.
2) If true this means Microsoft got it so fundamentally wrong which I find extremely hard to believe.
Why would a firewall let the outbound connection happen, then query it?
The question is "is the Windows Firewall sufficient" though?
The bottom line answer is "no".
The Windows Firewall is much better than its Internet Connection Firewall (ICF) predecessor, but still no match for a 3rd-party personal firewall solution such as ZoneAlarm.
Source: About.com
And remember what I said above about the XP firewall? That it's new and improved? Well, I need to qualify that statement. Despite the firewall's improvements, it's not invincible. A month ago, I asked Fred Felmen, vice president of marketing for Zone Labs, what impact Windows XP SP2 might have on third-party firewalls such as his Zone Labs ZoneAlarm. He said the Microsoft firewall protects only against inbound threats, not outbound threats, such as keystroke-logging Trojans that report your passwords and credit card info to others. Also, the lack of outbound protection means your infected PC could still participate in distributed denial-of-service attacks. In short, I recommend keeping your third-party firewall enabled alongside Microsoft's. Two firewalls are better than one.
Source: Cnet.com
I asked Fred Felmen, vice president of marketing for Zone Labs
z0mbi3 said:NAT + Windows firewall > *
AdladUK said:Do you know if it's possible to turn off it asking about outgoing applications please?
I would like to allow all outbound application requests, as I know I haven't got any spyware/trojan installed.