Plus.net Speed Issues

Soldato
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Hi there,

Just a general question to see if anyone else is having trouble with Plus.net?

For the past 3 weeks I've had terribly slow internet, Xbox 360 won't even connect to Live anymore, when it did I had the worst ping ever! Downloads are very slow and internet pages don't load 9 out of 10 times, when they do it takes a good 30 seconds to load the page including graphics.

I'm just wondering if this is an issue my end or not, I've reset my router back to default settings, restarted it, left it off for a few hours, but nothing seems to make a difference. This is on all computers aswell :(

If anyone would have any info it would be much appreciated!

Thanks
 
I've tried twice now to post this and about 4 times to get on those websites

Download speedachieved during the test was - 4320 Kbps
For your connection, the acceptable range of speeds is 600-7150 Kbps.
Additional Information:
Your DSL Connection Rate :7616 Kbps(DOWN-STREAM), 448 Kbps(UP-STREAM)
IP Profile for your line is - 6500 Kbps

noise margin upstream: 23 db
output power downstream: 19 db
attenuation upstream: 14 db
tone 0- 31: 00 00 00 02 45 56 67 77 77 77 77 77 66 65 44 00
tone 32- 63: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 64- 95: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 96-127: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 128-159: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 160-191: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 192-223: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 224-255: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 256-287: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 288-319: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 320-351: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 352-383: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 384-415: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 416-447: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 448-479: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 480-511: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
noise margin downstream: 11 db
output power upstream: 12 db
attenuation downstream: 23 db
tone 0- 31: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 32- 63: 00 00 00 22 34 45 57 77 79 8a 9a ab cb cb cc cd
tone 64- 95: 0c dc cc cd cc cd cc cc cc dd dc bc bb bb bb bb
tone 96-127: bb bb bb bb bb bb bb bc bb cb bb bb ba bb bb aa
tone 128-159: ba aa ba aa ab aa aa aa 8a ab 99 a9 99 99 aa 99
tone 160-191: 88 89 99 a9 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 88 68 99 99
tone 192-223: 99 89 99 89 78 88 66 88 88 65 89 97 99 99 99 99
tone 224-255: 99 99 99 99 99 89 89 89 79 98 78 88 87 76 60 66
tone 256-287: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 288-319: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 320-351: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 352-383: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 384-415: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 416-447: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 448-479: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 480-511: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
LAN Information:
IP Address: 192.168.1.1
IP Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0

Thanks
 
I've not seen bit-loading stats come back from a web interface before, what model modem/router are you using?

Many thanks for the help guys :)

The router is a ZyXel P-660HW-T1_v2 with standard firmware I guess ( V3.40(AXL.1) | 11/21/2007 )

  • The sync rates look reasonable. Not great given your line attenuation, but okay.
  • There doesn't appear to be anything untoward with the IP Profile.
  • The download throughput result didn't get up towards the IP Profile value, however, it wasn't awful.
    - This could be down to a few things such as how 'busy' the BTw or ISP networks are or, more generally, the time of day you performed that test.
    - It certainly suggests there is ample 'speed' over your internet connection.

Yes it does seem odd to me aswell, the speed test seems to show everything is OK but it definitely isn't!

Had you just said web pages were loading slowly then I'd ask which DNS servers you have configured on your PC and modem/router. If you weren't already, I would have suggested you try one of the well-known public services such as OpenDNS (208.67.222.222 / 208.67.220.220) or Google DNS (8.8.8.8 / 8.8.4.4).

Will give that a go and will post back with results

You've mentioned poor pings, albeit in a gaming scenario on the Xbox 360. If this thread progresses and it starts to look like an Xbox / Live problem then I'm out. We might be able to use ping to do a bit of diagnosis on your line, though.

Can you confirm whether the PC and Xbox use wired or wireless connectivity?


2 computers are wired, so is the Xbox, I have a laptop which is wireless + Iphone.

All are acting the same, Iphone won't preview songs etc on Itunes or App Store. Xbox won't connect to Live and all PC's have the same problem.


Can you paste,

  • Ping statistics summary (not the whole thing, thanks) for: ping -n 50 bbc.co.uk
  • Traceroute to see if anything is screwy: tracert bbc.co.uk
Consider setting up an account for thinkbroadband's Quality Monitor which might help to check for congestion on your connection or something on your network surreptitiously consuming bandwidth.

Wouldn't work with bbc.co.uk 'Ping request could not find host'

So for google.co.uk

Ping statistics for 66.102.13.147:
Packets: Sent = 50, Received = 49, Lost = 1 (2% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 37ms, Maximum = 239ms, Average = 55ms


The tracert wouldn't work for bbc.co.uk either

So google.co.uk - This took a good 3-4 minutes to complete


Tracing route to google.co.uk [74.125.77.147]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 2 ms 1 ms 2 ms 192.168.1.1
2 47 ms 120 ms 40 ms lo0-plusnet.pcl-ag01.plus.net [195.166.128.27]
3 * 38 ms 76 ms 84.92.5.57
4 34 ms 31 ms 33 ms 212.159.0.186
5 83 ms 32 ms 41 ms vl22.thn-gw1.plus.net [212.159.4.3]
6 62 ms 68 ms 56 ms 212.159.1.53
7 89 ms 94 ms 208 ms 72.14.223.32
8 34 ms 51 ms 32 ms 66.249.94.76
9 43 ms 39 ms 39 ms 216.239.43.123
10 273 ms 276 ms 115 ms 72.14.239.199
11 * * * Request timed out.
12 43 ms 41 ms 44 ms 74.125.77.147

Trace complete.


What type of account do you have with PlusNet, Value, Extra or Pro? Can you confirm that you have not gone over your monthly allowance? Check your broadband usage in their Member Centre because they throttle very heavily if you're on the fixed cost option and you go over.

I have an old Plus.net Account, I think its called a Premier 1 account? I am on the Tier 1 usage, but this hasnt effected what it was like before, to be honest I don't even know how I've gone over my limit? This problem has been ongoing now for probably a month. My new month is 6th so we will see if it makes any difference tomorrow, but I'm 90% sure it won't


Once again thanks for your help :)
 
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