Plusnet Hub One upgrade with Edgerouter X + UAP Lite

Dumphole · 25 Feb 2018 at 20:28

Hi guys,

My net connection is pretty limited (its the best I can get in the this area though) and I need to protect my bit of it so I can carry on getting owned online.

Having watched Battlenonsense I have started accruing the bits to put an Edgerouter X and UAP-Lite into my home.

I presume (as I'm completely new to networking) I'd plug my VDSL hub one into Eth0 and the UAP into Eth5 (with POE in between)?

I'm dreading the config setup but I'm sure I'll get there. Does anyone know what connection setting PlusNet goes with? The man on the plusnet help chat believes its a PPPOE type?

bremen1874 · 25 Feb 2018 at 21:58

They use a bog standard PPPoE connection.

If you want to use the Edgerouter grab yourself a second-hard Openreach VDSL modem (Huawei HG612).

If you connect the Edgerouter to the Plusnet supplied router you'll be double NAting.

Dumphole · 25 Feb 2018 at 22:14

His the hub one no good simply as a router? Its the same has the bt hh5 I think.

bremen1874 · 25 Feb 2018 at 22:20

It's fine as router.

For whatever reason you're talking about using an Edgerouter X. Putting a router behind another router is rarely the most elegant solution.

Dumphole · 25 Feb 2018 at 22:23

Ah, I was lead to believe the hub one would be purely on modem duties and allowing the erx to manage the traffic.

bremen1874 · 25 Feb 2018 at 22:28

The hub one doesn't have a 'modem mode'.

The easiest fix is to not use it and use a Huawei HG612 instead. BT Openreach used to provide one (or the ECI equivalent) for every VDSL connection so they're cheap and easily to obtain second-hand.

ChrisD. · 26 Feb 2018 at 07:33

Why not a USG paired with a BT Openreach modem?

pcfarrar · 26 Feb 2018 at 09:23

ChrisD. said:
Why not a USG paired with a BT Openreach modem?

Edgerouter is half the price, gives you a few switch ports and can also power a single AP via passive PoE.

ChrisD. · 26 Feb 2018 at 09:27

Doesn't it switch in software, so the throughput is poor? If the OP is interested in Ubiquiti as a complete solution then it makes sense to spend a little extra and get the USG for the throughput stats and smart queues.

pcfarrar · 26 Feb 2018 at 09:42

ChrisD. said:
Doesn't it switch in software, so the throughput is poor? If the OP is interested in Ubiquiti as a complete solution then it makes sense to spend a little extra and get the USG for the throughput stats and smart queues.

It's a hardware switch. It can do more or less everything the USG can do and smartqueue QoS works well on it. The only issue in the past was the UDP reordering bug, but I believe they have fixed that now.

Dumphole · 27 Feb 2018 at 13:14

Will I see any benefit by using the hg612? If so I’ll crack on with setting up the ERX with my hub one and if successful I’ll replace that with an hg612

pcfarrar · 27 Feb 2018 at 17:28

Dumphole said:
Will I see any benefit by using the hg612? If so I’ll crack on with setting up the ERX with my hub one and if successful I’ll replace that with an hg612

You won't have double NAT with a HG612.

Dumphole · 27 Feb 2018 at 17:38

What’s that?

bremen1874 · 27 Feb 2018 at 17:40

Did you try typing 'double nat' into Google?

No point repeating it all on here.

Dumphole · 28 Feb 2018 at 10:56

I see, well I have an hg612 on the way and from what I’ve seen it could well be plug and play.

I’ll still make sure I can get things working with the erx/hub one first then quickly include the hg after. I don’t want to take on too big a challenge when I can break it down.

ChrisD. · 28 Feb 2018 at 11:04

It'll be harder using the ER-X and the HH. Plug HG612 into phone line, plug ER-X into HG612 and then set up the connection on the ER-X using your ISP's details.

Dumphole · 28 Feb 2018 at 11:41

Yes I’m just discovering that. I’ve set the erx up as instructed but no net access via the erx/hh route.

Mariusz · 28 Feb 2018 at 12:27

Ditch your plusnet hub. I'm on plusnet and use a Draytek vigor 130 with a Netgear R7800 and it works great.

Dumphole · 28 Feb 2018 at 12:48

Yes it’s on it’s way out. The hg612 should be with me in the next couple of days.

I have the uap-lite running though (via the hh) and it’s excellent.

Mariusz · 28 Feb 2018 at 15:06

There is a guide on kitz to install unlocked firmware with a graphic user interface for the HG612, which will allow you to see line stats.