Pop! Goes the amplifier.

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Hi all,

I don't know much about audio, I know lots about music, and I know what I like.

I was using a hand-me down system that my Mum bought new when she was 18 - it was a Pioneer SA-5300 amplifier paired to a pair of JBL speakers. This worked great, I used it for several years until one too many gaffs later and one of the speaker cones disintegrated (not bad for 30 years old...)

This was in 2007 or so. I went to my local HiFi store and walked out with a pair of Monitor Audio RS1's. Ever since then... I can't complain.

Specs:

Frequency Response (Crossover Frequency): 43Hz –30KHz (3.3KHz)
Sensitivity (1W@1m): 90Db
Nominal Impedance (Ohms): 6
Power Handling (RMS): 80W
Recommended Amplifier Power Output (RMS): 25W – 100W

So, last night listening normally as I usually do, the right channel went reeeeeeeally crackly. It's still doing it now. I tried to isopropyl everything, so I went online and found the amps specs:

Power output: 10 watts per channel into 8Ω (stereo)
Frequency response: 20Hz to 30kHz
Total harmonic distortion: 0.08%
Input sensitivity: 2.5mV (MM), 150mV (line)
Signal to noise ratio: 70dB (MM), 85dB (line)

And... it's only 10W at 8Ohms, whereas the speakers recommend 25W to 100W at 6ohms...

I have two questions

1) Does running my speakers with this amp hurt them? It has been 10 years now, but I hardly crank them like I used to. I'm worried this may have affected the amp?

2) Is it worth repairing the amp? I wouldn't mind an amp with a subwoofer out to be honest, but on the other hand this amp has lasted 40 years, so surely a good going over and spending £100 on it may be a better investment than £500 on a newer amp that needs replacing every 5 years... The SA-5300 has a pair of unused outputs, surely with a crossover I can hook a sub up - Is it an option?

Any suggestions on good amps to match these speakers? I did like the Denon M41DAB, even though it's a Micro System, it does feel solid.

Only inputs are a CD player and a Raspberry Pi/HiFi Berry AirPlay combo, I never listen to the radio. Both the HiFi Berry and the CD player have optical outputs that I've never used, and wouldn't mind using them...
 
Seems like I can buy another SA-5300 for £100 or so, already refurbished. I wonder if there are better options - Happy to spend the money if it's worth it.

Noticed things like this:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Denon-RCD...917873?hash=item2cc2b0a671:g:854AAOSwdSNZ4gQN

30W in each channel at 6Ohms, is there any point going with a full-size amp over a compact one? I had an M35, older model which I would look at again, but I noticed the new ones have not one, but two optical inputs...

Or is it worth shelling out another 200 quid for twice the power?

https://www.denon.co.uk/uk/product/compactsystem/mini/pma60

Hmm. These all seem cheap compared to what I was expecting, probably a bad sign.
 
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i'd buy something new only to have modern tech and connectivity.

bluetooth, wifi, dlna, etc.

More stuff included (that I won't use anyway) means more complexity and more stuff to go wrong.

This is the kind of stuff i'm talking about, it infuriates me with modern micro-controller electrics:

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/broken-av-receiver.18796483/

I want an amp that does one job: amplifies.

Modern amps "can" be made pretty cheaply and decently - some surprisingly good stuff these days.

I dunno for sure but those look like old school carbon resistors in that 5300 - a modern amp with metal film or similar will have a much better noise floor, etc.

I can spend a grand on a 2 channel new Rotel with similar specs to the 500 quid Denon - There must be something besides brand name going on there? (Could be wrong, reason why i'm asking!)
 
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