Possible future high end gaming build, check? (need answer quick before -5% expires)

CuteTurtle · 24 Dec 2011 at 23:42

MSI GeForce GTX 570 OC Twin FrozR III Power Edition 1280MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £299.99
(£249.99) £299.99
(£249.99)
Radon P67 600i Intel 2500K 3.30GHz @ 4.60GHz DDR3 Overclocked Bundle £229.99
(£191.66) £229.99
(£191.66)
Options applied to the above product:
Asus P8P67 Intel P67 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard ** B3 REVISION ** £115.99
(£96.66) £115.99
(£96.66)
Options applied to the above product:
Kingston HyperX Genesis Grey 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (KHX1600C9D3X2K2/8GX) £29.99
(£24.99) £29.99
(£24.99)
Silverstone Raven 3 RV03B-W Full Tower Windowed Case - Black/Gold £109.99
(£91.66) £109.99
(£91.66)
Corsair Enthusiast Series TX650M High Performance 650W '80 Plus Bronze' Modular Power Supply (CP-9020002-UK) £89.99
(£74.99) £89.99
(£74.99)
Crucial RealSSD M4 64GB 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Hard Drive (CT064M4SSD2)

Sub Total : £707.45
Shipping cost assumes delivery to UK Mainland with:
DPD Next Day Parcel
(This can be changed during checkout) Shipping : £10.50
VAT is being charged at 20.00% VAT : £143.59
Total : £861.54

I already have some stuff from my old PC (HDD,etc)

The only thing that I am really worried about is installing all of this.. never done it before.

It's for gaming & I'm trying to save money but also get a good product!

beejjacobs · 24 Dec 2011 at 23:47

What screen do you have? well what resolution? Do you plan to SLI in the future?

Also, don't worry it really isn't difficult to build a PC! Seems scary but it's quite straight forward, just take your time. I'm not 100% sure where but on here and youtube there are various guides for building one.

KingArthur · 25 Dec 2011 at 00:07

whats your budget, do you have specific case requirements, what stuff do you have from your old pc?

By the way its a doddle building your own pc and it really isn't that hard!

CuteTurtle · 25 Dec 2011 at 00:10

I have 4GB ram.. 500 GB HDD, a normal disk drive, some fans from case I suppose, nothing special.

And I will be gaming at 1920 x 1080. And I do not plan on purchasing anything else to do with my PC for a very long time after this, so no SLI I guess ;D

No specific case requirements, as long as it looks good & cools well. (and is easy to install stuff on to I guess)

My budget is really anything, I don't want to spend a lot but if I say this I won't get good products in return

beejjacobs · 25 Dec 2011 at 00:24

YOUR BASKET
1 x MSI GeForce GTX 560Ti OC Twin FrozR II 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £215.99
1 x Intel Core i5-2500K 3.30GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor - OEM £173.99
1 x Silverstone Raven 3 RV03B-W Full Tower Windowed Case - Black/Gold £109.99
1 x Gigabyte Z68AP-D3 Intel Z68 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £84.98
1 x XFX 650W XXX Edition Modular '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply £81.98
1 x Kingston HyperX Genesis Grey 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (KHX1600C9D3X2K2/8GX) £29.99
1 x Gelid Tranquillo CPU Cooler (Socket 754/939/940/AM2/AM2+/AM3/LGA775/LGA1155/LGA1156/LGA1366) £25.99
Total : £739.42 (includes shipping : £13.75).

That's what I'd get, XFX make great PSUs (actually Seasonic re-branded I think)

Good CPU and cooler for an overclock (easy to do yourself)
Nice case (good choice

)
Solid motherboard, Z68 having a few extra features
GPU is up to you. You may benefit for 2GB of ram, especially if you are going to keep it for a while. So I'd get that, or maybe:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-123-MS&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=1752
(which I think will be faster than the GTX570
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/292?vs=306)

CuteTurtle · 25 Dec 2011 at 00:37

Never used ATI graphic cards, should I really go for the 6970?

The rest looks perfect, and only for £774!

(Most likely £956.97 because I'll use Hitachi payment as in per month)

Reaper 392 · 25 Dec 2011 at 00:42

im really not sure why this is coming up as more expensive as your selection, but this is what i'd go for.

YOUR BASKET
1 x MSI ATI Radeon HD 6970 2048MB Twin Frozr III GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card **Supplied with Dirt 3 & Deus Ex PC Games** £267.95
1 x Intel Core i5-2500K 3.30GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor - Retail £184.99
1 x Silverstone Raven 3 RV03B-W Full Tower Windowed Case - Black/Gold £109.99
1 x Gigabyte Z68XP-UD3 Intel Z68 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £99.98
1 x Antec TruePower New Modular 750W '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply £89.99
1 x Crucial RealSSD M4 64GB 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Hard Drive (CT064M4SSD2) £82.99
1 x Kingston HyperX Genesis Grey 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (KHX1600C9D3X2K2/8GX) £29.99
1 x Gelid Tranquillo CPU Cooler (Socket 754/939/940/AM2/AM2+/AM3/LGA775/LGA1155/LGA1156/LGA1366) £25.99
Total : £908.38 (includes shipping : £13.75).
every part is either cheaper or the same price as your build, yet its total is more expensive. it comes to £862.96 with the 5% discount code though. its all ready to add a second card in crossfire too (unlike beejjacobs's build)

comparison of 6970 and 570: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/292?vs=306
the main reason i chose the 6970 is the extra VRAM, since games are starting to use quite a lot of VRAM these days. BF3 has been recorded using 1800MB at times

KingArthur · 25 Dec 2011 at 00:42

do you have a budget, I could do a good built if you'd give me some sort of estimate, a thousand? Two?

shadow_boxer · 25 Dec 2011 at 00:47

CuteTurtle said:
Never used ATI graphic cards, should I really go for the 6970?

The rest looks perfect, and only for £774!

(Most likely £956.97 because I'll use Hitachi payment as in per month)

Finance!

You could probably do with losing the SSD then mate.

How about this,

Your basket
Product Name Qty Price Line Total
HIS ATI Radeon HD 6950 IceQ X PLUS Edition 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card **Supplied with Battlefield 3, Dirt 3 & Deus Ex PC Games** HIS ATI Radeon HD 6950 IceQ X PLUS Edition 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card **Supplied with Battlefield 3, Dirt 3 & Deus Ex PC Games** £227.99
(£189.99) £227.99
(£189.99)
Intel Core i5-2500K 3.30GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor - Retail Intel Core i5-2500K 3.30GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor - Retail £184.99
(£154.16) £184.99
(£154.16)
Gigabyte Z68AP-D3 Intel Z68 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard Gigabyte Z68AP-D3 Intel Z68 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £84.98
(£70.82) £84.98
(£70.82)
Cooler Master HAF 912 Plus Case - Black Cooler Master HAF 912 Plus Case - Black £69.98
(£58.32) £69.98
(£58.32)
Cooler Master Silent Pro Modular 600W '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply Cooler Master Silent Pro Modular 600W '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply £59.99
(£49.99) £59.99
(£49.99)
Gelid Tranquillo CPU Cooler (Socket 754/939/940/AM2/AM2+/AM3/LGA775/LGA1155/LGA1156/LGA1366) Gelid Tranquillo CPU Cooler (Socket 754/939/940/AM2/AM2+/AM3/LGA775/LGA1155/LGA1156/LGA1366) £25.99
(£21.66) £25.99
(£21.66)
Sub Total : £544.94
Shipping cost assumes delivery to UK Mainland with:
DPD Next Day Parcel
(This can be changed during checkout) Shipping : £12.50
VAT is being charged at 20.00% VAT : £111.49
Total : £668.93

Use the code "cmdouble" to knock off another £20 and with the -5% total comes to £616.48. Also you say you already have 4GB or RAM. If it's DDR3 dual channel then you may as well use this instead of buying a new set of 8GB?! The graphics card comes with three free games but if you don't want any of them just get the slighter cheaper version without the bundle.

As you can tell I'm not a fan of finance.

CuteTurtle · 25 Dec 2011 at 00:49

Reaper 392 said:
im really not sure why this is coming up as more expensive as your selection, but this is what i'd go for.

YOUR BASKET
1 x MSI ATI Radeon HD 6970 2048MB Twin Frozr III GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card **Supplied with Dirt 3 & Deus Ex PC Games** £267.95
1 x Intel Core i5-2500K 3.30GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor - Retail £184.99
1 x Silverstone Raven 3 RV03B-W Full Tower Windowed Case - Black/Gold £109.99
1 x Gigabyte Z68XP-UD3 Intel Z68 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £99.98
1 x Antec TruePower New Modular 750W '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply £89.99
1 x Crucial RealSSD M4 64GB 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Hard Drive (CT064M4SSD2) £82.99
1 x Kingston HyperX Genesis Grey 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (KHX1600C9D3X2K2/8GX) £29.99
1 x Gelid Tranquillo CPU Cooler (Socket 754/939/940/AM2/AM2+/AM3/LGA775/LGA1155/LGA1156/LGA1366) £25.99
Total : £908.38 (includes shipping : £13.75).
every part is either cheaper or the same price as your build, yet its total is more expensive. it comes to £862.96 with the 5% discount code though. its all ready to add a second card in crossfire too (unlike beejjacobs's build)

comparison of 6970 and 570: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/292?vs=306
the main reason i chose the 6970 is the extra VRAM, since games are starting to use quite a lot of VRAM these days. BF3 has been recorded using 1800MB at times

I don't need SLI ready, and its because he didn't add SSD.
Since I don't need SLI, is the build still good that beejjacob posted?

@Shadow Boxer: I really did want BF3, but the graphics card is .. less better

I agree with SSD. Also the case really isn't what I would want D:
I will try do this without Finance. And my RAM is DDR2

If I wanted to save money, and really wanted BF3 should I go for 6950 over 6970? Or do they have a huge quality difference? I wish I could play BF3 at High..

KingArthur · 25 Dec 2011 at 00:52

YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i5-2500K 3.30GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor - OEM £173.99
1 x Crucial RealSSD M4 128GB 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Hard Drive (CT128M4SSD2) £149.99
2 x OcUK ATI Radeon HD 6850 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £107.99 (£215.98)
1 x Gigabyte Z68XP-UD3 Intel Z68 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £99.98
1 x Antec High Current Gamer 900W Quad Rail '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply £99.98
1 x Zalman Z9 Plus Tower Case with Fan Controller - Black £49.99
1 x Kingston HyperX Genesis Grey 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (KHX1600C9D3X2K2/8GX) £29.99
1 x Gelid Tranquillo CPU Cooler (Socket 754/939/940/AM2/AM2+/AM3/LGA775/LGA1155/LGA1156/LGA1366) £25.99
Total : £860.89 (includes shipping : £12.50).

the crossfire 6850 would be far superior than most cards out there. Saved you a few quid and that setup would be far superior than most give or take a few components.

Surveyor · 25 Dec 2011 at 01:02

If you're using the finance option then last I heard on this forum you can't buy anything on special offer such as Today Only or This Week Only.

I don't know if this would affect the 5% discount.

CuteTurtle · 25 Dec 2011 at 01:09

KingArthur said:
YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i5-2500K 3.30GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor - OEM £173.99
1 x Crucial RealSSD M4 128GB 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Hard Drive (CT128M4SSD2) £149.99
2 x OcUK ATI Radeon HD 6850 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £107.99 (£215.98)
1 x Gigabyte Z68XP-UD3 Intel Z68 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £99.98
1 x Antec High Current Gamer 900W Quad Rail '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply £99.98
1 x Zalman Z9 Plus Tower Case with Fan Controller - Black £49.99
1 x Kingston HyperX Genesis Grey 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (KHX1600C9D3X2K2/8GX) £29.99
1 x Gelid Tranquillo CPU Cooler (Socket 754/939/940/AM2/AM2+/AM3/LGA775/LGA1155/LGA1156/LGA1366) £25.99
Total : £860.89 (includes shipping : £12.50).

the crossfire 6850 would be far superior than most cards out there. Saved you a few quid and that setup would be far superior than most give or take a few components.

This would be a lot more solid than this?

p.s how do you like link all the stuff in a basket like you did

KingArthur · 25 Dec 2011 at 01:14

well you haven't got an SSD, that money your spending on that case could be better spent because the zalman is an excellent one and has a fan controller and for £15 more you could get that 900w PSU.

I use this for the basket

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...1tmrCg&usg=AFQjCNEFDzuwbwfFO6uOefUYoUH3cJeVng

fowler002 · 25 Dec 2011 at 01:23

if you don't need sli then its a good thing that in reapers spec you don't have a NVIDIA card then

ati/amd is crossfire NOT sli

is the hard disk you hav sata? and dvd drive?

YOUR BASKET
1 x MSI ATI Radeon HD 6970 2048MB Twin Frozr III GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card **Supplied with Dirt 3 & Deus Ex PC Games** £267.95
1 x Intel Core i5-2500K 3.30GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor - OEM £173.99
1 x Silverstone Raven 3 RV03B-W Full Tower Windowed Case - Black/Gold £109.99
1 x Gigabyte Z68AP-D3 Intel Z68 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £84.98
1 x Crucial RealSSD M4 64GB 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Hard Drive (CT064M4SSD2) £82.99
1 x XFX 650W XXX Edition Modular '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply £81.98
1 x Kingston HyperX Genesis Grey 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (KHX1600C9D3X2K2/8GX) £29.99
1 x Gelid Tranquillo CPU Cooler (Socket 754/939/940/AM2/AM2+/AM3/LGA775/LGA1155/LGA1156/LGA1366) £25.99
1 x Samsung SH-S222AB/BEBE 22x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £15.98
Total : £890.35 (includes shipping : £13.75).

with the voucher code OCUKXMAS you get free shipping plus 5%

KingArthur said:
well you haven't got an SSD, that money your spending on that case could be better spent because the zalman is an excellent one and has a fan controller and for £15 more you could get that 900w PSU.

I use this for the basket

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...1tmrCg&usg=AFQjCNEFDzuwbwfFO6uOefUYoUH3cJeVng

you don't need 900w psu for a crappy 6850 xfire, the 1gb vram of the 6850 will struggle on bf3 and the like

CuteTurtle · 25 Dec 2011 at 01:26

KingArthur said:
well you haven't got an SSD, that money your spending on that case could be better spent because the zalman is an excellent one and has a fan controller and for £15 more you could get that 900w PSU.

I use this for the basket

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...1tmrCg&usg=AFQjCNEFDzuwbwfFO6uOefUYoUH3cJeVng

Yes it is SATA, as for dvd drive it's an LG normal dvd drive as it looks.

How about this

YOUR BASKET
1 x HIS ATI Radeon HD 6950 IceQ X PLUS Edition 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card **Supplied with Battlefield 3, Dirt 3 & Deus Ex PC Games** £227.99
1 x Intel Core i5-2500K 3.30GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor - OEM £173.99
1 x Crucial RealSSD M4 128GB 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Hard Drive (CT128M4SSD2) £149.99
1 x Gigabyte Z68AP-D3 Intel Z68 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £84.98
1 x XFX 650W XXX Edition Modular '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply £81.98
1 x Zalman Z9 Plus Tower Case with Fan Controller - Black £49.99
1 x Kingston HyperX Genesis Grey 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (KHX1600C9D3X2K2/8GX) £29.99
1 x Gelid Tranquillo CPU Cooler (Socket 754/939/940/AM2/AM2+/AM3/LGA775/LGA1155/LGA1156/LGA1366) £25.99
Total : £824.90 (includes shipping : FREE).

Surveyor · 25 Dec 2011 at 01:29

fowler002 said:
YOUR BASKET
1 x MSI ATI Radeon HD 6970 2048MB Twin Frozr III GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card **Supplied with Dirt 3 & Deus Ex PC Games** £267.95
1 x Intel Core i5-2500K 3.30GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor - OEM £173.99
1 x Silverstone Raven 3 RV03B-W Full Tower Windowed Case - Black/Gold £109.99
1 x Gigabyte Z68AP-D3 Intel Z68 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £84.98
1 x Crucial RealSSD M4 64GB 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Hard Drive (CT064M4SSD2) £82.99
1 x XFX 650W XXX Edition Modular '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply £81.98
1 x Kingston HyperX Genesis Grey 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (KHX1600C9D3X2K2/8GX) £29.99
1 x Gelid Tranquillo CPU Cooler (Socket 754/939/940/AM2/AM2+/AM3/LGA775/LGA1155/LGA1156/LGA1366) £25.99
1 x Samsung SH-S222AB/BEBE 22x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £15.98
Total : £890.35 (includes shipping : £13.75).

4 products there on special offer.

As I said above, I don't believe those can be bought on finance unless something has changed since last I heard.

If the OP can afford that without finance then fair enough. If he can't....

CuteTurtle · 25 Dec 2011 at 01:33

Edited, I don't need 128 GB, 64 is enough.

Comment on this?

YOUR BASKET
1 x HIS ATI Radeon HD 6950 IceQ X PLUS Edition 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card **Supplied with Battlefield 3, Dirt 3 & Deus Ex PC Games** £227.99
1 x Intel Core i5-2500K 3.30GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor - OEM £173.99
1 x Gigabyte Z68AP-D3 Intel Z68 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £84.98
1 x Crucial RealSSD M4 64GB 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Hard Drive (CT064M4SSD2) £82.99
1 x XFX 650W XXX Edition Modular '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply £81.98
1 x Zalman Z9 Plus Tower Case with Fan Controller - Black £49.99
1 x Kingston HyperX Genesis Grey 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (KHX1600C9D3X2K2/8GX) £29.99
1 x Gelid Tranquillo CPU Cooler (Socket 754/939/940/AM2/AM2+/AM3/LGA775/LGA1155/LGA1156/LGA1366) £25.99
Total : £757.91 (includes shipping : FREE).

fowler002 · 25 Dec 2011 at 01:49

but is the dvd drive also sata?

if your budget allows would say go for the 6970 but will need to change the case as the z9 wouldn't fit the msi 6970

CuteTurtle · 25 Dec 2011 at 01:54

fowler002 said:
but is the dvd drive also sata?

if your budget allows would say go for the 6970 but will need to change the case as the z9 wouldn't fit the msi 6970

Yes, It's sata.

And what case do you recommend?

I'll go for 6970, I guess I could sell Deus Ex for spare cash to buy BF3.

Edit; would it really make a big difference if I were to take 6950 in BF3 on high?