Possible to do 1080p on a 2007wfp?

Emp.Man

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I've been weighing up whether or not to get a Blu-ray player now that the format war is all but over and the PS3 is tempting me since the cost be all that far off getting a new drive and graphics card when all's said and done, plus I'll have a console into the bargain. I've been having a play with someone else's on their Samsung SM-2032BW via a HDMI-DVI cable and it looks great, no problems at all apart from having to dismiss a little box when you switch it on saying that the resolution is higher than the monitor can manage so it's presumably scaled down a little bit rather than chopping bits off the edges since everything looks as it should.

Before going out and getting one myself I thought I'd borrow it and make sure there were no problems with my monitor and it's a good job I did, because all I get is a black screen and an 'out of range signal' error. Is there anything I'm missing here or can a 2007wfp just not do anything beyond 720p for HD resolutions? I'll be pretty frustrated if so, especially since I'd be more than willing to go out and buy a bigger monitor if there was anything around below the 30" Dell (WAY out of my size and budget limits) with an S-IPS screen.

Cheers :)
 
does your 2007wfp have DHCP support ont he DVI port? I know the ones you can buy on OcUK now say it does, but I don't know about revisions etc.
 
does your 2007wfp have DHCP support ont he DVI port? I know the ones you can buy on OcUK now say it does, but I don't know about revisions etc.
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Dont think its relevant, as the screen wont support a high enough resolution to run 1080p anyway. 720p is the highest it will run. (1080p is 1920*1080....think a 24" monitor).
 
I thought they all did to be honest, that and the fact it worked fine on the Samsung were the reasons I was confident of it all going OK. It's a fairly new one, about a year old and A03.
 
DavidB said:
Dont think its relevant, as the screen wont support a high enough resolution to run 1080p anyway. 720p is the highest it will run. (1080p is 1920*1080....think a 24" monitor).
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As I say though, it works fine on the Samsung which is also 1680x1050, it's just scaled down a little.
 
As I say though, it works fine on the Samsung which is also 1680x1050, it's just scaled down a little.
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Fair point, although that isnt technically running at 1080p. My 2007wfp cant run 1080p from xbox or any other device ive tried anyway.. so its a resounding no. :(
 
Sounds like it :(

I know you're not actually looking at a 1080p image but I'd rather it rendered at that resolution and scaled down a tiny bit than have 720p scaled up quite a lot since the framerate isn't going to benefit any from being lower as it would on a PC, but I'll compare the two on the Samsung and maybe the difference won't be as much as I'm thinking.

It's a bit of a quandry since by the time a monitor comes out that I feel is worth the upgrade (the 26" S-IPS LG I came across the announcement for the other day looks the most likely possibility at the moment) the PS3s with decent backwards compatibility will probably be going for even more demented sums than they are now.. Why can't these things ever be easy?

Anyway, thanks for the help :)
 
I'd be losing out on the upscaling of older games and I'd then have to choose between shelling out for a VGA box or using composite. But thanks for your helpful input!
 
Emp.Man said:
I'd be losing out on the upscaling of older games and I'd then have to choose between shelling out for a VGA box or using composite. But thanks for your helpful input!
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The upscaling really does naff all except in a few minor cases. :)

Can't polish a turd as they say, my Xbox 360 looked exactly the same set to 720P as it did set and upscaled to 1080P for example.
 
Sorry, I mean the upscaling job it does on PS2 and PS1 games to HD resolutions rather than the difference between 1080p and 720p per se, from what I've read elsewhere it's quite impressively done. I can't imagine a regular PS2 is going to look the best on there even with a VGA box.

In any case I've just had a bash on it at 720p and it looks perfectly fine so I'll be happy to stick with that until it's new monitor time.
 
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Sorry, I mean the upscaling job it does on PS2 and PS1 games to HD resolutions rather than the difference between 1080p and 720p per se, from what I've read elsewhere it's quite impressively done. I can't imagine a regular PS2 is going to look the best on there even with a VGA box.

In any case I've just had a bash on it at 720p and it looks perfectly fine so I'll be happy to stick with that until it's new monitor time.
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Yeah I know what you meant, the upscaling doesn't do much even from 480P to 1080P. :)

I heard all you need for a regular PS2 to look okay on a HDTV is the RGB Scart/Component cables or something, I've heard from a lot of places the PS3 upscaling really doesn't do anything.
 
We've obviously heard different then! I'll have to see if I can see it myself before splashing out extra on a 60gb model.
 
the 2007wfp does suppport HDCP and but the panel will only do H = 1050, however it could be possible to say crop the input 15 pixels top and 15 pixels bottom, and then display 1080p cropped at 1:1 pixel aspect ratio. :) I have played HD content on it but that was via power DVD which will up/down scale to to 1050 no matter what. I slightly prefer my 2007wfp against my 20wgx2 nec, its easier on the eyes, easier on the wallet and wider viewing angles throught its gamut.
 
you'd be chopping more than that off the sides too mind - I quite often watch 1080p stuff on my 20" ws and just put the window in the middle of the monitor so that the sides are cropped off - that way I don't miss much and there's no scaling going on.
 
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