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SeaanxT

SeaanxT

SeaanxT

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Hey guys,

Long time user/first time poster here.

I'm contemplating a upgrade, I was happy with my 4060ti until i upgraded to a 1440p 170hz monitor, when i stream certain games it drops to a number I'm not quite happy with. Was thinking about upgrading to a 4080/4090 to go with my 5800x3d (not to worried about a cpu bottleneck)

So wanting something than i can use nvenc and game at the same time for 130 minimum frame rate. What versions of the 4090 are safe? as i have heard horror stories on here and on the other forum set (that shall not be mentioned)

Any help is greatly received
 
Assuming you already use nvenc for encoding,
If you are seeing a large drop in fps when running obs, it's likely cpu related. Check your gpu usage before and after. Can be slightly mitigated with less overlays, bots, screen capture types etc. But largely it's just something to live with unless you go dual machine.

In helldivers 2/once human, I'll drop from 100+/120+ down to 60/80 while streaming. Gpu usage drops hugely, Graphics settings do nothing, except free up more gpu %. (obv cpu related ones do) .
Upgraded from 5900x to 5950x and got a little bit more, but it's because obs needs to run in real time too.
Other games that aren't so cpu heavy, I notice barely any drop in fps.


Obviously might not be an issue on the games you may, or where the 5800x3d is much faster, and I imagine the 4060ti might also just not be enough gpu for you at that res anyway, just don't want you wasting money for nothing :)

Regardless, I'd only look at 4080 super or more likely wait for 50 series if you want to be gong that high end.
 
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Ch3m1c4L said:
Assuming you already use nvenc for encoding,
If you are seeing a large drop in fps when running obs, it's likely cpu related. Check your gpu usage before and after. Can be slightly mitigated with less overlays, bots, screen capture types etc. But largely it's just something to live with unless you go dual machine.

In helldivers 2/once human, I'll drop from 100+/120+ down to 60/80 while streaming. Gpu usage drops hugely, Graphics settings do nothing, except free up more gpu %. (obv cpu related ones do) .
Upgraded from 5900x to 5950x and got a little bit more, but it's because obs needs to run in real time too.
Other games that aren't so cpu heavy, I notice barely any drop in fps.


Obviously might not be an issue on the games you may, or where the 5800x3d is much faster, and I imagine the 4060ti might also just not be enough gpu for you at that res anyway, just don't want you wasting money for nothing :)

Regardless, I'd only look at 4080 super or more likely wait for 50 series if you want to be gong that high end.
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Appreciate the response, I'm very happy with the performance off stream.. was streaming while playing 1080p before and it was fine, then for my birthday I treated myself to a 1440p monitor. I sit at like 130fps in Warzone off stream smooth as butter, but once on stream it drops to like 90fps which just isn't smooth enough for my OCD arse :rolleyes:.

I have seen that 4080's paired with my CPU chill around 160 all the way up to 200fps while off stream, so was thinking even if it dropped 20% in performance while using nvenc id sit in the range I'd like?

I have had dual systems before and personally, never again.. nor do I have the space for a dual set up again (in the corner of my living room)
 
SeaanxT said:
So wanting something than i can use nvenc and game at the same time for 130 minimum frame rate. What versions of the 4090 are safe? as i have heard horror stories on here and on the other forum set (that shall not be mentioned)
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You might want to read this thread:

Particularly the 'solution' here:
Well then!

Disabling game mode + capping the framerate ingame to 30 WORKED.
I even went back to NVENC.
And it's smooth, with the settings below.
It's a SOLVED for Destiny 2 at least.
Hell YES.
Thank you so much guys!
I think I know how to get the other ones working now.
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Tetras said:
You might want to read this thread:

Particularly the 'solution' here:


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My PC amazingly cannot game and stream. But I don't want to buy another PC...

Budget (including currency): £0 Country: UK Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Destiny 2, DOOM Eternal, Fortnite, LOST ARK, Helldivers 2, Cyberpunk 2077 Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to bu...
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Yeah, I saw that earlier but sadly some of the games I play capping to 30 isn't a option really.
 
Not the best time to be buying a high end gpu now we are almost at the end of the generation and prices are still high.

You could always bump the monitor down to 1080p for the mean time while waiting for the next gen cards.
 
Joxeon said:
Not the best time to be buying a high end gpu now we are almost at the end of the generation and prices are still high.

You could always bump the monitor down to 1080p for the mean time while waiting for the next gen cards.
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This is what im thinking, its only warzone tbh so can drop that to 1080p until 5xxx series is out and then either get high end 4xxx or 5xxx
 
if you are willing to drop £1500+ on 4090 then just wait a few months and buy a 5090 and get possibly 50% plus extra performance for your money over a 4090, you would be crazy not to wait 4-5 months.
 
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