Power and internet connection to my shed

XysteR

XysteR

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Hi all,

I've recently built a shed in the back of my garden about 15 meters away from the house. I aim to install a standard outdoor 20m power extention to power the computer, lights etc and a single 25m lan patch cable that i'll connect to the wireless router in the house to give the net connection on the computer in the shed.

Would it be fine to run both the power and network cabling together in the same cable housing to the shed or would the power cable cause problems with my net connection?
 
think i've seen mention of not running normal cat cable outside even when encased.

possible it might cause interference if its poorly shielded

any reason you cant use wireless in the shed ?
 
I did think about using wireless but i'd prefer a solid stable connection. I thought that if i was running a power cable then why not a net cable too, cheap enough to do.

atomiser said:
how exactly are you planning to house the cabling between the two?
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Its to be housed in plastic external tubing stuff. Well thats the idea upto now
 
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If you're running power you'll really want to use an armoured cable or tube, just in case you sever it digging in the garden etc...

Personally I'd run the two separate in the same underground channel, use armoured cable for power (making sure it's a fused supply) then run 3/4 inch plastic tubing (bathroom overflow/waste pipe type stuff so you can get the 90 bends etc..) for the network cable.

Or use wireless as suggested above. :)
 
Whilst perhaps not best practice there is no reason why you couldn't do it as you plan, I suppose you could put separate cable ducts in for the power and data if you wanted to physically separate them out but personally the run is pretty short and there should be no problems with interference.

If you wanted to use some more heavy duty cable Belden make some good ruggedised stuff although it is rather more expensive than the standard PVC coated Cat5e at about £300 for a 100m drum.

Running a pair of cables in case one fails is always a good idea too.
 
Hmmm gonna keep my eye on this thread. Thinking of making an outhouse/studio sort of building at the back of my garden. Only something small about 7' or 8'x5'. Was thinking of ways to run power and network to it from the main house which is about 15m-20m max away. Not keen on wireless myself either, prefer the solid connection you get with going wired.
 
i'm just gonna run power and cat 5 cable together along the fence in plastic tubing and seal the joins with silicone or something. I'll 'Suck it & see'
 
Use armoured power cable outside and shielded cat5 (STP as opposed to UTP).

On the house end *never* run the power without it's own dedicated breaker - either hard wired or one of those plug in jobbies you use with the lawnmower etc.
 
Good practice is that the power should never be put tougether with STP or UTP cables and if you have to then you should cross them at 90 degrees. But casue it might be expensive to get seperate tubing or STP cable I would go for UTP cat 5e first and see if you get any dropped packets or corrupted data when transferring a large zipped file for example (I bet you can find a connection testing software as well somwhere)
If it fails then you can use the wasted 20 meters for something else later.
 
For the love of god man, get armoured cable for the power, dont care what you do for the network, maybe some in a hose pipe.

If you put your shovel through a mains cable and its not armoured its bye bye time!
 
If you are running 1 cable, I would always run 2 if you are digging up. Means if one hasnt worked you always have a backup. Or in case you decide you want another PC/laptop in there. It only adds a couple iof quid to the cosr.
 
Been doing this for a while, both down the same tube buried about 6 inches below the gound.

I used shielded cat-5 (think the only difference is a think layer of tin foil in the STP!!) and haven't seen any problems in the last 4 or 5 years I have been doing it :)
 
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Would something like these Ethernet over power adapters work? That way you'd just have one cable.

Is it feasible? I'm asking because I don't know myself but I'm sure someone will.
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These do work fine for the interenet, my garage is about 3-4 meters away from the house. But never really get above 10mb & latency is about 5+ms
So if you plan on doing some heavey transfering would go cat5e - cat6 route
 
Iv got standard CAT5 running down the outside of the house in plastic trunking into the garage for 3 years, never had a problem with it.
 
Seaniboy said:
These do work fine for the interenet, my garage is about 3-4 meters away from the house. But never really get above 10mb & latency is about 5+ms
So if you plan on doing some heavey transfering would go cat5e - cat6 route
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There's now at least 3 speed grades of the homeplugs 11 is old hat, 85 rated is fine for internet and light file transfers, 200 AV models fine for HD streaming (30+ is a relistic speed) and now pretty cheap.

The rest of your house would become live as well.
 
Yes but speed is totally dependant on condition and lenth of internal wiring. I am just saying if you plan on doing heavey transfers then then run Cat5e. Rather than take the risk of spending around £100 on a kit they may not be suitable
 
Seaniboy said:
Yes but speed is totally dependant on condition and lenth of internal wiring. I am just saying if you plan on doing heavey transfers then then run Cat5e. Rather than take the risk of spending around £100 on a kit they may not be suitable
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Agreed. Since theres going to be a run of cable too, then its cheaper to drop some cat5e STP in there at the same time. It is cheaper and probably more reliable.
 
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