Power surge while I was away can anyone help?

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OK! So wondering if anyone could help me here?

Just got back from being away for Xmas, and lo and behold my power extender's "Surge Protection" light has gone out and now my PC wont boot, (Everything else that's connected works fine, Monitor, TV, PS3 etc)

My PC hangs instantly on start up. (Where is says press F2 to enter Bios etc, the Motherboard doesn't seem to boot as not even the ROG logo pops up)

It's an 8 year old PC so it's due to die but I was hoping it would last till summer as I was going to see what Zen was like.

For now I'm hoping it's just the power supply that's out rather than the motherboard (Though as the PSU still turns on fans boot, lights go on etc it's probably the Motherboard) For now I have ordered a PSU tester from Amazon, (For some reason it doesn't show anything when i use the search bar on the OCUK site =/) but thanks to the New Year it wont arrive till Saturday.

I have switched around RAM to see if that helps but to no avail . Is there anything else I can test before my PSU tester arrives? I really don't want to upgrade when a new Architecture is around the corner rather than a refresh >.<

Thanks All!
 
try clearing/resetting the cmos maybe...

I have to say that personally I unplug all my equipment if I'm going away for a longer period.
 
try clearing/resetting the cmos maybe...

I have to say that personally I unplug all my equipment if I'm going away for a longer period.

So do I lol.

I even turn it all off at the plugs when I sleep, everything else was off but this the one time I don't do it this happens >.<
 
You can close this thread now, I done a bios flashback and it fixed it.

Got a new surge protector being delivered tomorrow.... gutted I wasted money on a power supply tester though, but i guess it will come in handy at some point.
 
Never mid it work briefly then crashed rebooted with the same problem.

Then when I tried to reset it again i dropped the pin into the PSU >.< so yeah...

At the very least I know the processor, RAM, and PSU are ok, looks to be the MOBO that's the issue.
 
Now I'm getting CPU overheat errors, it's hitting 100 degrees.
If the motherboard is screwy then don't trust any reading's it's giving out, it also potentially could be running things like fan headers wrong.

IF the fan is working like normal (not guaranteed if plugged into fan header) then it should be ok temp wise but I'd personally not run it to be on the safe side.
 
If the motherboard is screwy then don't trust any reading's it's giving out, it also potentially could be running things like fan headers wrong.

IF the fan is working like normal (not guaranteed if plugged into fan header) then it should be ok temp wise but I'd personally not run it to be on the safe side.

The Heatsink on the fan was hot to the touch, I solved it now, let me boot into windows, left it logged in for an hour worked fine, second i tried to do something like open up LoL, nothing happened then it crashed out and wont boot.

I'll play around tomorrow, similar problem to when my memory died last time, (Just glad it's not my hard drive would be fuming it it was my SSD, most valuable part of my comp now)
 
After some messing around it seems it killed another one of my RAM modules, so now i'm down to 2gb =(
First, a plug-in (adjacent) protector can even compromise protection inside a computer. You have just seen that. Something completely different, also called a surge protector, would have even protected that power strip. So why buy another ineffective plug-in protector?

Second, a power supply 'system' can cause other good parts to act defective (ie DRAM). Some defects that can cause ghost problems are not identified by a power supply tester. However for about same money or less, a meter, some requested instructions, and only minutes of labor would have identified all potential reasons for failure ... without speculation. Or exonerate all components of that 'system'. Power supply tester does not even test those other 'system' parts.

Third, a system can have a defective power 'system' part and still boot a computer as if good. Even when a system operates, a meter can still see the defect. Just another reason why a meter is so informative; enables others who better know this stuff to reply without speculation. Can even find a defect when the computer is having a better day.
 
First, a plug-in (adjacent) protector can even compromise protection inside a computer. You have just seen that. Something completely different, also called a surge protector, would have even protected that power strip. So why buy another ineffective plug-in protector?

Second, a power supply 'system' can cause other good parts to act defective (ie DRAM). Some defects that can cause ghost problems are not identified by a power supply tester. However for about same money or less, a meter, some requested instructions, and only minutes of labor would have identified all potential reasons for failure ... without speculation. Or exonerate all components of that 'system'. Power supply tester does not even test those other 'system' parts.

Third, a system can have a defective power 'system' part and still boot a computer as if good. Even when a system operates, a meter can still see the defect. Just another reason why a meter is so informative; enables others who better know this stuff to reply without speculation. Can even find a defect when the computer is having a better day.

I'm confused what you mean.

I had a surge protector, the only explanation is that it didn't do as it was supposed too or that there were multiple surges over the course of a week. (I usually turn everything off by the switch everynight and when i go out, this time i just forgot)

I also don't know what you mean by an "Ineffective plug-in protector" I have two plugs in my entire room and need 6 minimum besides this new one has a £30k connected devices warranty so if this goes wrong, Belken are paying out.

Also could you link me a plug in device that you would recommend.

(Also my other two RAM sticks failed well over a year ago I just never bothered to replace them, it's not like something went wrong and I thought "hey ill do the exact same thing and see if it happens again.... oh no I did now I have even less modules!!")
 
I also don't know what you mean by an "Ineffective plug-in protector" I have two plugs in my entire room and need 6 minimum besides this new one has a £30k connected devices warranty so if this goes wrong, Belken are paying out.
Power off by a switch means that computer is still connected to surges. Electricity that powers a computer is incoming on one wire (ie blue) and outgoing on another (ie brown). Surges are different. A surge is incoming on any or all three wires (brown, blue, and green). Open a switch (disconnect a brown wire). Surges are still incoming on other wires. Furthermore, protector parts simply connect an incoming brown wire surge to all other wires (green and blue). IOW protector parts can give a surge more potentially destructive paths into a computer. Can even bypass superior protection inside that computer. Where is the protection?

Best powerboard has no protector parts and has an always required fuse or circuit breaker. That means no parts that, in rare cases, create fires.

Does a millimeters gap in a switch stop what three kilometers of sky could not? Of course not. An open switch does almost nothing for protection. More robust protection is already inside a computer's PSU.

Anyone can make big quid warranty claims. Read its fine print. Protectors with large and hyped warranties are also full of fine print exemptions. Many learn this the hard way. Exemptions can vary even with different products from a same company. For example, some APC warranties stated that a protector in the building from any other manufacturer voided an APC warranty. Lessons from free markets demonstrate that products with largest warranties are often least reliable products. The technique is simple and well proven. Put numerous exemptions in the fine print.

If warranties prove product quality, then General Motors products are vastly superior to Honda and Toyota. Really?

Newsman demonstrated this in "SONY TiVo SVR-2000".
Eventually it boiled down to a line in the warranty that said "Belkin at it's sole discretion can reject any claim for any reason".

Protection (even 100 years ago) was about where hundreds of thousands of joules dissipate. How many joules do your protectors claim to absorb? Hundreds? Any solution that does not define energy dissipation is not doing protection. Protection means a surge current is not anywhere inside a house. Then a surge is not hunting for earth ground destructively via appliances.

BT suffers about 100 surges with each storm to their multi-million quid switching computers. And no damage. You do same. Earth that current before it can enter. That means a properly earthed 'whole house' protector. What actually does protection - a low impedance (ie less than 3 meter) connection to earthing electrodes. A current that connects short to earth then need not be inside hunting for earth destructively via your computer - or furnace, clocks, dishwasher, smoke detectors, etc.

That is how protection was done for over 100 years. That is why your town has phone service for four days after every thunderstorm. That is the only solution found in every facility that cannot have damage. That is also a least expensive protection per appliance. Proven solutions come from other companies of integrity including Keison, ABB, AEL Group, and Siemens.

Effective protectors claim protection from destructive surges. A powerboard protector claims to absorb how many joules? That is a near zero (typically not destructive) surge made irrelevant by protection already inside appliances. Lightning and other destructive surges can be hundreds of thousands of joules. Properly earthed 'whole house' protector dissipate direct lightning strikes in earth. And remain undamaged. Lightning may be 20,000 amps. So a minimal 'whole house' protector is 50,000 amps. Numbers define differences between effective and near zero protectors.

Protector light does not report on all types of failures. Your surge protector light only reports one type of failure - because that protector was grossly undersized. That light cannot report a protector as good. It can only report one type of failure - when a potentially destructive surge (ie too tiny to overwhelm protection inside a computer) destroyed a near zero joule protector.

Protection is always defined by numbers and a simple question. Where are hundreds of thousands of joules absorbed? A protector is only as effective as its earth ground which only exists with 'whole house' protectors. Only 'whole house' protectors have that dedicated and essential low impedance (ie wire with no sharp bends) connection to earth. An effective protector must always remain functional after every surge - including direct lightning strikes. Near zero (ineffective) protectors are identified by an extinguished "protector good" light. Apparently that is what you saw - and the resulting damage. Because a surge was not earthed BEFORE entering the building. Even power board protectors need protection only provided by the 'whole house' solution.
 
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