Pre built with a 4080 worth it?.

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Hi. Is it worth to buy a pre built system in 2023

I have at the moment

2080ti
X570 Aorus Pro
16GB ram
ryzen 3700x

Pre built
4080
ASUS ROG Strix Z790-F Gaming WiFi
Intel Core i7 13700K
32GB DDR5 Memory

Is it worth it at this stage in the 4080 life time?. I game at 4k on a M32u monitor and the 2080ti is showing its age and my CPU fan is screaming in pain at 4K. Thanks.
 
Nelix847 said:
Hi. Is it worth to buy a pre built system in 2023

I have at the moment

2080ti
X570 Aorus Pro
16GB ram
ryzen 3700x

Pre built
4080
ASUS ROG Strix Z790-F Gaming WiFi
Intel Core i7 13700K
32GB DDR5 Memory

Is it worth it at this stage in the 4080 life time?. I game at 4k on a M32u monitor and the 2080ti is showing its age and my CPU fan is screaming in pain at 4K. Thanks.
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You could get a 5800X3D, 32gigs of DDR4 RAM, a 4090 and add a high end PSU which would do 4K great.

Buuuut

The temptation to go to DDR5 is there if you need more RAM anyway and going 13th gen or 14th gen has some performance advantages.

Also buuuut

Socket LGA1700 is also at end of life since the launch of 14th gen so keep that in mind.

Also also buuuut

You could consider an AM5 X3D CPU like the 7800X3D which is very very fast and there will be more CPU upgrade options for socket AM5 coming out.

What is your budget?

Your 3700X is definitely a big bottleneck for gaming.

A 4090 will handle 4K gaming better than a 4080.
 
JollyJamma said:
You could get a 5800X3D, 32gigs of DDR4 RAM, a 4090 and add a high end PSU which would do 4K great.

Buuuut

The temptation to go to DDR5 is there if you need more RAM anyway and going 13th gen or 14th gen has some performance advantages.

Also buuuut

Socket LGA1700 is also at end of life since the launch of 14th gen so keep that in mind.

Also also buuuut

You could consider an AM5 X3D CPU like the 7800X3D which is very very fast and there will be more CPU upgrade options for socket AM5 coming out.

What is your budget?

Your 3700X is definitely a big bottleneck for gaming.

A 4090 will handle 4K gaming better than a 4080.
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£3k its one in a 4 or 5 year fully built system. Ive had this PC for 4 year. The only problem with upgrading this PC is that other systems will probably fail along the way so i might as well buy a new one every 4 or 5 years. I always give my older pc to my nephew who games at 1080p any way.

Also anotherthing im not sure if the 4080/4090 series would fit in my case as it looks chuncky like a bus. My 2080ti just fits in this one i have now.
 
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Also anotherthing im not sure if the 4080/4090 series would fit in my case as it looks chuncky like a bus. My 2080ti just fits in this one i have now.
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Right but then you’re going to get less 4K gaming performance.

The GPU at 4K is far more important than the CPU (obviously don’t expect 4K gaming to run well on a dual core pentium but even a midrange CPU performs well at 4K because gaming at that resolution puts a lot more pressure on the GPU as the number of pixels that need driving is much higher than at 1080P and even 1440P).

Edit: see this 4K gaming benchmark round up https://www.anandtech.com/show/1874...0x3d-review-amd-s-fastest-gaming-processor/10
 
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£3000 gets you this build with a 4090 + Overclockers will build it for approx £100 to £150 .



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If i knew it would last 4 or 5 years as this PC has i would snap it up. It just not knowing what Nvidia is doing with the next 5000 series card. If we knew it was going to be another 3 or 4 years for certain i would buy today.
 
Nelix847 said:
If i knew it would last 4 or 5 years as this PC has i would snap it up. It just not knowing what Nvidia is doing with the next 5000 series card. If we knew it was going to be another 3 or 4 years for certain i would buy today.
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Ordinarily I'd just say "sure, no problem", but 4K is a very demanding resolution, especially if you want to play all the latest AAA games. We could have said "there's DLSS/upscaling to help you", but developers seem to be assuming we'll use it now, rather than it being an option.

So, if you want games to be playable at reasonable settings (e.g. medium, 60 fps), then yeah, it should be capable of 5 years, but with high refresh, max settings and ray tracing enabled? I doubt it.
 
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Nelix847 said:
If i knew it would last 4 or 5 years as this PC has i would snap it up. It just not knowing what Nvidia is doing with the next 5000 series card. If we knew it was going to be another 3 or 4 years for certain i would buy today.
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lol no, you never ever know.

Most systems should last 5 years with gaming in the last two years at lower settings to keep the frames per second up because games get more difficult to run.

If you want to game without having to upgrade for 5 years, buy a console.

PC gaming now is more like “buy a midrange setup now and then upgrade to a new midrange graphics card in 5 years time”.

There is also always a new graphics card or CPU coming out as it takes 6 years to develop a new product so if you always wait for the new thing, you’ll never upgrade.

Nvidia have the RTX 5000, 6000 and 7000 series all already lined up and there’s no promise that any of them will be substantially different to the point where it’ll be best to wait for a particular one.
 
Nelix847 said:
If i knew it would last 4 or 5 years as this PC has i would snap it up. It just not knowing what Nvidia is doing with the next 5000 series card. If we knew it was going to be another 3 or 4 years for certain i would buy today.
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There are rumours of a refresh coming (the super series), but the 5000 series is only landing in 2025. Depends how long you’re willing to wait.

4090 for 4K would last you a good while especially with the value add stuff like DLSS.
 
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