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Problem with HD3870x2.

Never heard of it either, the X1900's were probably the most impressive, most reliable cards I ever used. They went like **** off a shovel and never let me down. Ahh, the first time I put one in my machine I fired up Oblivion at 1680*1050 at max detail with 4x AA was a moment never to be forgotten... *wipes dewy eye in rememberance*
 
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Final8y said:
Can point us to some threads or links to back that up because that is the first time that any mention of an this problem with lots of x1900s.
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Indeed first i heard but as i never owned one never wanted to call bluff.And comparing it to this problem is alittle odd this being a X2.And a few model's have some out since with no such problem 2600 2900 3*** etc.
 
Richdog said:
Never heard of it either, the X1900's were probably the quickest, mst reliable cards I ever used. They went like **** off a shovel and never let me down. Ahh, the first time I put one in my machine I fired up Oblivion at 1680*1050 at max detail with 4x AA was a moment never to be forgotten... *wipes dewy eye in remembrance*
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Damn right it was a good card & i had been using 2 of them in CF & still held up well when i moved to my 30" 2560x1600.
 
megalomanic said:
The paper/stickers came of my 2 3850's after about 5 days, and they're only ~41'C idle never seen them far past 80'C, i guess stickers coming off radeon cards is a common thing?.

It's strange that your fan speeds up at a crash... anything in windows could be 'limiting' the fan speed?
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I want mine to peel off, but it isn't! :mad:
 
Seem to have sorted it now. It was a driver issue after reinstalling the 8.3s its working normally. Well an hours worth of BF2142 anyway, that got it up to 82degrees and it stayed there.

I am suprised how hot it is though its uncomfortable touching the black metal heatsink bracket.
 
Ye they can get hot but your know when its taking a bashing cause your fan will hit %100 .And mine never has even on a 5 hour mad one the day i had it.Just at boot for them few sec's
idle around 48-50 me load around 65-70 .
 
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Dandle said:
I am suprised how hot it is though its uncomfortable touching the black metal heatsink bracket.
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Put it this way, if it was tcold ot the touch THEn you'd need to worry. Two GPU's pump out a lot of heat, and the fact the heatsink is so hot means it's good contact and it's doing its' job!

Probably wouldn't hurt to have a 120mm fan blowing onto the heatsink though, that will cool it another 10c or so.
 
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/247557-15-x1900xt-problems
http://forums.*****.net/help-techni...ire-x1900xt-overeating-artifacts-crashes.html edit - this was another one but it's obviously restricted so take my word for it
http://www.techsupportforum.com/har...rd-support/224210-radeon-x1900-artifacts.html

Even a video which was exactly what happened with mine - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8oXsSrFvI4

There was some talk about it happening with the x1900s in macs too iirc? Although I wouldn't know about that, I know there was something on the wow forums about it. There was definitely problesm with this though not extremely widespread, and I do agree my x1900 was a beast before it crapped out.

By the way, it most definitely is not a heat issue, even running just in windows with 100% fan on all the time it would reset the card all the time, sometimes within about 20 seconds of loading up.
 
boulton said:
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/247557-15-x1900xt-problems
http://forums.*****.net/help-techni...ire-x1900xt-overeating-artifacts-crashes.html edit - this was another one but it's obviously restricted so take my word for it
http://www.techsupportforum.com/har...rd-support/224210-radeon-x1900-artifacts.html

Even a video which was exactly what happened with mine - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8oXsSrFvI4

There was some talk about it happening with the x1900s in macs too iirc? Although I wouldn't know about that, I know there was something on the wow forums about it. There was definitely problems with this though not extremely widespread, and I do agree my x1900 was a beast before it crapped out.

By the way, it most definitely is not a heat issue, even running just in windows with 100% fan on all the time it would reset the card all the time, sometimes within about 20 seconds of loading up.
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I mostly see a thread with one off case , another with 1.5 year old 1900xtx that could have been subjected to god knows what over that time & most likely needs a clean out.
If it was an overall problem with the card then we at OCUK would have known about it.
A 1800xt that i sold to a friend started to crash & i told him to check that the cooler has clean, after he cleaned it out all was good.
the fact is many people just don't take care of cleaning there gfx cards have bad air flow until problems show up & then sometimes the damage is already done & is not the fault of the gfx card.
Notice how there is not such a thread on OCUK & that is more likely because many here know about good cooling & care of there equipment.
Thus such problem rarely arise unless it just a plain dud from the get go.
So i conclude that is not a problem with the 1900xt & just that s*** happends & that goes for all cards.
 
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Thanks for implying I don't ever clean it out but I did and it was fine for about 2 hours before it started messing up again. Maybe it was a dud but the fact it happened to the macs as well leads me to believe it was a problem with that specific gpu, not very common, and all the cards with the problems may have been duds from the get go, but the exact same problem happening in them implies it is a problem with the gpu and not just a series of unrelated duds.
 
boulton said:
Thanks for implying I don't ever clean it out but I did and it was fine for about 2 hours before it started messing up again. Maybe it was a dud but the fact it happened to the macs as well leads me to believe it was a problem with that specific gpu, not very common, and all the cards with the problems may have been duds from the get go, but the exact same problem happening in them implies it is a problem with the gpu and not just a series of unrelated duds.
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I didn't imply anything of the such about you.
You could have just had a dud.

It does not matter what system it is installed in.
The 1900xt was a card to have at the time & there will be bad one its as simple as that.
 
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Yeah, I'm just trying to say if 50 9800x2 cards fail out of 50000 and 40 of those die cos the card explodes or something, you could say 9800x2s have an exploding card problem because if 80% of them fail like that then it's common statistically
 
boulton said:
Yeah, I'm just trying to say if 50 9800x2 cards fail out of 50000 and 40 of those die cos the card explodes or something, you could say 9800x2s have an exploding card problem because if 80% of them fail like that then it's common statistically
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Its not something worth mentioning because that is not the case.
OCUK is mostly likely one of the biggest if not the biggest enthusiast E-tailer in the UK if the problem was common then the forum members would have known about it.
Is see that your new here, give it some time & you will see that very little slips through the net here.
Just like the problems with the 7900 overheating problems or the Nvida 8800 resister problem.
 
boulton said:
Yeah, I'm just trying to say if 50 9800x2 cards fail out of 50000 and 40 of those die cos the card explodes or something, you could say 9800x2s have an exploding card problem because if 80% of them fail like that then it's common statistically
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What on earth are you talking about. :D
 
Just a bit of an update. Ive reinstalled Windows XP and BF2142 and the problem is still there. If I turn AA off my system doesnt seem to crash even with everything on high. As soon as X2 AA is enabled though either in CCC and not the game or just in the game the system locks up and crashes.

Any more ideas? Im going to disconnect my second harddrive tomorrow and the cd writer to see if its a power supply problem. Although I would think the Enermax Liberty 620w should be enough.
 
Right the card is going back as it just takes longer to crash without AA on.

On a side note with the system in my sig when running 3dmark06 at 1680x1050 with no AA and the CCC 3d slider set to performance the mark im getting is around 9800-9900 would that be what you would expect or a little low?
 
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