Problems with GA-EX58-UD5 Overclocked bundle

UnrealBob

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Hi everyone.

Got my Overclocked bundle in august and have been having increasing problems with it ever since.

I'll try and describe all of them as best as possible!

Firstly, the computer will only boot with overclock settings from COLD. If the computer restarts (soft or hard) then it does its usual power up / power down stuff and then defaults back to the original settings. If I re-enable the overclocked settings, I can sometimes get it to boot again (These are the settings that came with the board from O.C, the only things that have been changed are boot order, etc. Also, if the computer crashes which happens sometimtes, again this is a reboot so forces the settings out again.

I obviously don't want to play about with the settings and risk voiding my warranty!

Second problem:

I recently got a G19 Keyboard as a present. However the UD5 won't boot up if it's plugged in, just gets to the end of the memory test and reboots. (This happens with and without overclock settings) Computer was always fine with my G15.

Third problem:

I am now running on normal un-overclocked settings as I can't be arsed with the amount of times I have to start it up to get it working sometimes. This has bought back a problem I originally had and talked to O.C tech about. I get the dreaded capacitor noise! Seems random sometimes, normally when the computer is not under heavy load. This problem went away for a while and only seems to have come back after reverting to stock settings.

What do people suggest? RMA the lot? I'm at my wits end with this setup! I thought having an overclocked bundle would be the safest option as it would just work!

Specs:
Overclockers UD5 - Intel i7 @ 4Ghz - 6GB Ram (F10 bios)(Windows 7 RC)
2 x WD Black 640GB
1 x OCZ Summit 120GB
1 x WD Green 750GB
Creative X-FI
G19 Keyboard
Dell 24" Monitor
Asus 4890 GFX

Hope someone can help me get back to computing normality!
 
Thanks for your quick reply Admiral Huddy.

Do I have to contact them via email to sort it out? I would like to speak to someone over the phone about it because we might be able to sort it that way but i'm not paying 10p per min when the bundle came faulty! I called them before and didn't get much help for my £1.20. :(
 
mrix said:
Had loads of issues myself starting from the cold boot issues, I have now got a new F10 4ghz overclocked profile off overclockers.co.uk, all appears to be running fairly good apart from a little warm on idle:)
Cheers
mrix
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Hey Mrix,

Did you download this profile or did they send it back from RMA with it? I would much prefer to sort it at home rather than waiting for an RMA with no machine.

I'm hoping OC support with come through for me! :)
 
Thanks for that Mrix, have just posted a support query and will try the new profile as soon as they send it. I don't think it will solve my keyboard issues but it might solve the rest!
 
Just been trying out the new profile O.C sent. It is a bit better but many problems still remain. I can now soft reboot and the system works fine, but if I hard reboot or turn the computer off and turn it back on within a few mins, then it comes on, then switches off, then comes on again. Then switches off, then comes back again and says the overclock settings have been disabled, even though they are obviously fine. Also, no cold boot issues at the moment, although i never really got any because it never gets cold in this room.

Also I am still unable have my G19 plugged in during startup. If I leave it plugged in then the computer goes into a reboot loop until I unplug it (with and without overclocking). I found someone on the Logitech forums complaining about not being able to boot to a Gigabyte MB with a G19 keyboard :(

I think this might be a Gigabyte issue, they don't make the best boards, but it is very annoying! :(
 
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LOL, didn't think of it like that! Although it does boot fine when it hasn't been running (cold) but doesn't like turning on after it has been on for a while (warm). Does anyone know if this problem has been solved?
 
I haved disabled the USB Storage option in the bios and USB isn't in the list to try for boot devices and i can't find anything else there either. Have also tried turn on/off USB Keyboard / Mouse support, but no combo of options seems to work. Interestingly though, if i have the system overclocked and the keyboard plugged in, it reboots then complains about overclocking settings, then will finally boot after a min or two of being frozen at the bootup screen.
 
The keyboard doesn't work at stock or overclocked settings. Only if it is plugged in after memory tests or sometimes if both keyboards are plugged in on stock and only after it spending 3 mins at mem test.

I will play with the overclock settings tomorrow and see if i can get it to cold boot better after it has been running a while. It's weird though, its never been perfect since i got it, but i'm sure it didn't have the restart problem when it arrived, and i haven't changed any settings. Although i don't often turn the computer off then back on again, just warm restarts. I was first alerted to it when i came back to the computer a few times after it had crashed and the overclock settings had been disabled.
 
Just had a quick play with overclock settings.

New profile from OC has definently solved the warm boot / restarts.

However the cold boots still have problems (first boot of the day is always fine though)

I tired downing the multiplier so the chip was only overclocked to 3ghz, but this still caused an issue (left the rest of the settings as they were in OC profile)

I then loaded the standard settings and did a basic overclock to 3.5ghz (no voltage / ram changes). This loaded fine everytime, and the system seemed stable. Also on a normal bootup, i only got 1 test cycle.

By test cycles i mean this:

When the computer starts the Graphics card will fire up to full speed, then slow down (This is 1 cycle, the diag display will show C1, then blank, then come back)

Generally with the overclockers profile i get 3 test cycles, then the system will start.

On cold boot after the system being on, the computer will come on, then go off very quickly.

I then get it back and get 3-4 test cycles, then the power goes off again.

Then power back, 1 test cycle, and systems starts with O.C error.

Any ideas? Maybe the voltages need playing with. I tried setting some of the voltages from AUTO, to their actual running settings, but couldn't actually get it to boot with that profile.
 
Settings are as follows:

From MB Intelligent Tweaker (M.I.T)
CPU Clock Ratio: 20x (Have tried 19-15, still has issues)
BCLK Frequency: 200
Performance Enhance: Standard
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P): Disabled
System Memory Multiplier: Auto
DRAM Timing Selectable: Quick
CPU Vcore: 1.33750v
QPI/VTT Voltage: Auto (1.200v from bios)
DRAM Voltage: 1.660v

From Advanced CPU Features
Intel Turbo Boost Tech: Disabled
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E): Enabled (Have tried disabling this to get rid of high pitch whine)
C3/C6/C7 State Support: Disabled

From UnCore & QPI Features
QPI Link Speed: 7.2GHz
Uncore Frequency: 3800 MHz

From Standard CMOS Features
Halt On: No Errors

From Integrated Peripherals
USB 1.0 Controller: Enabled
USB 2.0 Controller: Enabled
USB Keyboard Function: Enabled

Thanks to everyone for their help and suggestions so far :D
 
I used some of the running values from easytune yes. But everytime i booted these would change. i will run easytune now and post the current values (with board set to auto)

The uncore x19 setting is what overclockers provided so i assumed it would be fine. I tried x15-x20 but they all gave the same booting problem.
 
Also, what sort of temps should i be expecting to get at idle and load? I have noticed an increase since the F10 update, although i must admit i only really did a proper temp check when i first installed the system.
 
Have now managed to get rid of the restart / cold start issue by setting the QPI/VTT to 1.340v (couldn't boot into windows with anything lower than this)

However when i run a stress test i get a lovely BSOD.

The next setting up is 1.360v which is above recommended levels.

I'm going to try adjusting some Ram / multiplier settings and see if i can get it to be more stable
 
Bit stuck at the moment. Can't get it to run at 100% cpu with QPI set to 1.340v, can't get it to boot with any less than that. Apparently the max recommended setting is 1.350v. Can anyone suggest any other settings i can change to get the system to behave?

Also i found out that ejr22 was probably right and that having QPI voltage set to auto was causing the booting problems. So just need to find a happy medium where i can boot and use my computer!

Thanks again for everyone's help and suggestions so far :D
 
Well some damn good news!

I seem (fingers crossed) to have it stable and got rid of the cold boot issues!

Here is what i changes from O.C profile:

As eir22 suggested, the QPI being set to auto was wrong. have now set this to 1.340v.

Then as fornowagain and eir22 both suggested, the Uncore multiplier was wrong. Have set this to 16x (giving an uncore freq. of 3200MHz). Also changed SPD to manual @ 8.0.

QPI link speed is set to auto and is running @ 7.2ghz according to bios

CPU clock ratio is 20 and BCLK is 200 giving me 4GHz

CPU Vcore is currently 1.33750V.

Other settings are:
CPU Clock Drive @ 900mV (Set by overclockers i think)

Together the system seems stable, and currently has no cold or warm boot issues (although i will be testing over the next few weeks to make sure)

What sort of temps do people get with a 4GHz overclock @ stress and idle? My temps seem to have gone up since new BIOS and am wondering if it is worth reseating heatsink since i have been poking about in there.

Thanks again to everyone for their input, hopefully this has bought my overclocking nightmare to an end! I have learnt quite a bit about overclocking and shouldn't have been so lazy to let a company do it for me! It was much easier with my socket A athlon :P

Will keep you all advised on stability of the system.

Special thanks to mirx, eij22 and fornowagain

I hope i'm not jinxing it by posting my findings! :D :D
 
Oh an as for my keyboard, i have a spare PCI USB card which i will try. Currently I have the keyboard plugged into the screen and i don't turn the screen on until the computer is past POST (the USB ports don't work on the screen unless it is on) A bit of a dodgy way round but it works for now!
 
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