Process for pursuing antisocial behaviour order...

[DHR]

Not wanting to go into huge amounts of details, but I've lived in a lovely little close for close to 10 years. There hasn't been any trouble, ever. In the last 12 one a very strange individual has moved into a huge multi bedroom property on their own, no lodgers friends etc.

Although I was aware of it initially, trouble started soon after that around him lodging parking disputes with people/guests etc of other people in the close. This escalated to in their own words starting to "prove a point". The point is always unknown but it's "proven" but chanting rubbish in the street and smashing glass bottles over the road in the early hours of a morning that suits him.

The police have been called 5+ times to him in this state now, usually by the time they arrive he's back in the house. So he's known to them now at least.

The problem for me is though, there doesn't seem to be anything actually being done about it long term, so it's the same thing over and over and he's getting away with it.

I want to put some form of action together, for my own sanity if not everyone else's whereby I have what the police need available to pursue the matter further.

We're becoming desperate, and in all honesty, the guy seems that emotionally unstable I'm convinced there is more to him than just your average idiot.

 

[RaohNS]

Does he have a letterbox and do you have lots of neighbours?

 

[jimjamuk]

Webcam pointing into the street - record all the "events" and then take all the evidence to the fuzz. They wont deal with the one offs especially if hes gone back inside as everythings calm again

 

[DHR]

Does he have a letterbox and do you have lots of neighbours?

Indeed, just don't want to escalate it to that level, or drop to his. Don't for a second think it hasn't crossed my mind.

 

[DHR]

Webcam pointing into the street - record all the "events" and then take all the evidence to the fuzz. They wont deal with the one offs especially if hes gone back inside as everythings calm again

So the current route I'm taking looks to be the best? Problem I have is where I sit as far as the DPA goes, he's the type to wrongly think he's intelligent and above everyone else "I googled and the gov site says this" so you have to give me all of your data etc. I need to be prepared for that. May even speak to a solicitor today.

 

[Cosimo]

Webcam pointing into the street - record all the "events" and then take all the evidence to the fuzz. They wont deal with the one offs especially if hes gone back inside as everythings calm again

Not just a webcam but a written record with dates times, etc. Also record anything from your neighbours. You might even suggest that they also keep a record.

 

[Destination]

Do not have the webcam overlooking his property in any way.
Do not physcially show his land within the camera.

 

[MeEsH BaKkA]

Probably some rich bloke who's been divorced... Maybe because he's a **** who knows.

How about instead of posting stuff on a forum and assuming "there's more to him" you go and knock on his door and be polite and ask what's bothering him and how it can be resolved?

I got my house young, lived in a 3 bed on my own, all my neighbours thought I was a drug dealer an a few made snide comments to me. As you can imagine after that I lost all respect towards them and had house parties and generaly lived up to their expectations for a year or two. 8 years later it's all good now.

Edit: obviously if he responds badly to you being polite then my first port of call would be finding out if he rents and go to the landlord... But if he owns the house, especially if it's outright then to be fair not even the police are going to be able to help you too much unfortunately.

 

[Orionaut]

Probably some rich bloke who's been divorced... Maybe because he's a **** who knows.

How about instead of posting stuff on a forum and assuming "there's more to him" you go and knock on his door and be polite and ask what's bothering him and how it can be resolved?

I got my house young, lived in a 3 bed on my own, all my neighbours thought I was a drug dealer an a few made snide comments to me. As you can imagine after that I lost all respect towards them and had house parties and generaly lived up to their expectations for a year or two. 8 years later it's all good now.

Edit: obviously if he responds badly to you being polite then my first port of call would be finding out if he rents and go to the landlord... But if he owns the house, especially if it's outright then to be fair not even the police are going to be able to help you too much unfortunately.

Indeed,

You want to try every other available (Legal ) avenue before running to Teacher.

Once you get the Police/LA officially involved it will get a lot worse before it gets any better.

 

[Spikey]

1) Report ANY issues to police (relevant of course)
2) Log any incidents down (dates/times etc) on diary sheets (Your local ASB officer from the Local Authority should request these at some point)
3) Liaise with other residents and get them to also report/Log Data

This should be the minimum as a starting point. You need to consider that no action can be taken unless there is evidence and you continue to log and report any issues. ASB orders are very difficult to obtain and require a certain level of evidence before a judge would even consider granting any order. There are new powers to do ASB closures but these are difficult to gather unless the complaints are continuous and their ASB is constant over a long period of time. It's not going to be an instant thing but if it is as bad as you say then you need to be doing the above for any sort of action to be taken. I've lost count of the times I've gone to an ASB job which the reporting person makes out is that bad they want to move etc but they refuse to report it.

 

[=XDC=FluphyBunny]

Have you ever watched The Purge? Get all the neighbours together, decide on a date, then gaffer tape at the ready and you are good to go.

To be honest anything involving the police/ASBO will be long drawn out and potentially a waste of time given how little you are likely to be able to restrict someone within their own home/street. Try talking to him first, directly asking what his issue is and take things from there.

Has he bought the property or is he renting it? If he is renting that will give you an easier way of having him evicted if it comes to that.

 

[MeEsH BaKkA]

Why are people suggesting police as a starting point??? Just speak to him, if that fails then yeah look to more involved ways of dealing with it.

Calling the police on your neighbors isn't cool.

He could ruin your street perfectly legally if he wanted if he wanted to I'm sure, I'm about to convert my house into MO student accommodation for example, bet they wish they had a quiet drug dealer when I fill that place with freshers. Hey ho.

 

[DHR]

Why are people suggesting police as a starting point??? Just speak to him, if that fails then yeah look to more involved ways of dealing with it.

This is the first time the police have been called by me. I've apparently missed it but its happened on 5 other occasions too, during which 5 other residents have called the police because the guy is out of hand.

He's been spoken to directly by everyone in the neighbourhood other than myself, I've heard a handful of these conversations getting in and out of my car and the end conclusion is that he has that little in his life he is just determined to try and destroy everyone else's.

To put it in context, he moved away from another street less than 1/4 mile away. We found out, that the residents there threw a street party when he moved out because of they way he'd treated them.

I totally, totally understand where you're coming from, but he's out of control and borderline dangerous and far as I've witnessed.

 

[Gaygle]

Good luck getting an ASBO for that. Unless he starts riding around the streets on dirt bike, whilst setting fire to cars and throwing his rubbish continually into everyone elses garden, there is no chance.

He is an individual with mental health problems. A pain to live next to/near, but he needs more intervention from our lolworthy mental health service. Which again, isn't going to happen.

Rock ---- You ---- Hard place.

 

[Lopéz]

Have you ever watched The Purge? Get all the neighbours together, decide on a date, then gaffer tape at the ready and you are good to go.

I know some people who did something along these lines and it was not the wisest course of action!

 

[Gaygle]

Why are people suggesting police as a starting point???

Because this is the default answer to everything these days. "Call the police - they'll sort it out!"

 

[DHR]

Rock ---- You ---- Hard place.

Agreed. I just can't stomach watching a mother and her child with a dustpan and brush cleaning up glass off the boarders and the road because he "was making a point".

 

[FloppyPoppy]

Good luck getting an ASBO for that.

Pretty much this he just sound like a disgruntled drunk to me asbos are given to people who go around smashing everyone's windows and putting a knife into the wheel of every car on the street.

I recommend a good old fashion lynch mob

 

[Spikey]

Got to laugh at people suggesting this guys behaviour isn't anti social - noise etc comes under the ASB bracket not just riding around on bikes and slashing car tyres. At the end of the day having mental health issues and being a drunk isn't an excuse for making other peoples lives a misery.

 

[DHR]

Got to laugh at people suggesting this guys behaviour isn't anti social - noise etc comes under the ASB bracket not just riding around on bikes and slashing car tyres. At the end of the day having mental health issues and being a drunk isn't an excuse for making other peoples lives a misery.

Thank you Spikey.