Project managers

[TW]Fox;14156849 said:
Unfortunately we know enough about your attitude to make informed judgements on your character.

Oh dear, I think you are spending far too much time on these forums mate. Try to get out more.
 
Kind of varies - we're a Systems Integrator for medium - large enterprises in the public and private sector so yeah can be anything from a small solution to a very large one!

So do you work with more off the shelf products rather than bespoke stuff?

I found the public sector to be much worse than the private sector in terms of overall competance (devs, pms, bas), people just seemed to be able to do whatever they wanted! Much prefer where I am now (private sector), but we still have our gems!
 
Just because the average salary over the last 3 months is £x, doesn't mean you are getting it.

You sound like a junior who is new to the role and has to whinge about something.

Get over it fella :)

What in gods name are you talking about? Where did I say what I was getting? Basher said PMs earn more that MOSS architects, I disagreed and showed him evidence, to which he accepted.

I'm finding it pretty funny that the people criticising me are the ones not READING THE ******* THREAD!

So, perhaps you should get over it fella?
 
Of course its to stereotype all PMs, nero's consistent bashing of them and claiming that anyone who defends them must be a PM kinda points towards him thinking all PMs are ****s.

Actually you're slightly incorrect. I only claimed people were PMs who were attacking ME and making character judgements based on this RANT thread. I didn't attack people who 'defended' PMs.

It's a rant, I really cannot see how anyone here could not take it slightly tongue in cheek - did you leave your sense of humours in your spreadsheets?! ;)
 
So if anyone would like to know how this little story ended, I finished the task today and let the PM know, and I was met with the reply "Oh, the client have changed their minds so don't do anymore work on it".... I wasn't at all surprised!

The good news is I'm off that project and back of my MOSS rebuild project. Nero is happy once more! :)
 
Clearly if you read the thread properly you would know that is not the case, re-read, understand his position whether you agree with it or not and instead of result to petty bickering and factless insinuations just take note that he is ranting (this has been said many times now, I mean come on...) This thread isn't serious business (pic here), its to let off steam from any *bad* experiences you've had. If you want to say how lovely and soft pm's are, make a different thread about it, you can justify all you like that pm's aren't all bad, we already know the obvious. Its not requried information.

you cant defend the pm's he has had experience with as you have only had one example from him.

On a side note - the guy playing in the saxophone shop above me really cant play the "happy birthday" song...

If they haven't figured it out yet, no amount of reasoned explanation will help them! Perhaps we should just be thankful that they are not PMs...?
 
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