Project Orion - Nasa give name for next moon missions

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Thirty-seven years ago today, Project Apollo put the first humans on the surface of the Moon. The next time the U.S. launches its astronauts to Earth's natural satellite, they will do so as part of Project Orion.

NASA intends to use the moniker Orion as both the title for its next generation manned craft, the Crew Exploration Vehicle (CEV), and as the project name. This approach is modeled after the 1960's program when Apollo Command Modules launched astronauts under Project Apollo.

Under Project Orion, NASA would launch crews of four astronauts aboard Orion Capsules, first to Earth orbit and the international space station and then later to the Moon.

Two teams, one led by Lockheed Martin and the other a joint effort by Northrop Grumman and The Boeing Co., are currently competing to build the CEV. NASA is expected to select the winner in September.

In June, NASA announced that its crew launch vehicle, which would lift the CEV into space, would be named Ares I, with Ares V reserved for a larger booster to haul cargo or a future moon lander.

At the time of that announcement, NASA's Associate Administrator for Exploration Scott Horowitz said that the reason he wasn't also releasing the name of the CEV at the same time had to do with the legal process related to federal trademarks.

"We have to make sure we aren't infringing on any copyrights or anything," Horowitz said, describing how Ares was selected. "You have to go through that whole process and that just takes time."

At the same June 30th press conference, Constellation Program Director Jeff Hanley said that the name for the CEV was close to being finalized.

"We are trading three or four names at this point. There is a running, leading candidate that of course, I can't talk about yet because we have to go through a process to have it vetted and approved. Hopefully, I'd like to think that in a month we'd be able to role that out," said Hanley.

NASA spokesperson Dolores Beasley said that NASA did not have a name for the CEV at this time.

Yet a publicly-accessible federal trademark search shows that NASA was granted the use of Orion on July 14, 2006 for use with "command modules" and "crew capsules", as well as crew and cargo launch vehicles.

Sources close to the agency confirmed that the name Orion was in the final stages of approval.

Earlier documents obtained in January by collectSPACE used the names Antares and Artemis as 'notional' titles for the CEV. Orion will soon officially replace those other names for internal and external use, though when NASA will announce Orion is not yet known.

In addition to its association with Greek Mythology, which includes tales of Apollo and Artemis, Orion is also one of the most recognizable constellations in the night sky, that of the embattled hunter. Project Orion was also the title given to a 1960s project to design a nuclear pulse rocket.
 
I think going to the moon again is utterly pointless. They did it the first time to prove they are the worlds greatest superpower not to sample the moon dust!

"But if they didn't go to the moon there would not be research into propulsion etc"

Utter tripe! Unmanned satellites mean theres still research into it. As for the propulsion of getting out of the atmosphere well thats old technology anyway until they decide to change it. Infact most stuff on the shuttle is old technology due to the cheaper cost and reliability of a proven method.

I'm not an expert on US politics but I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that Bush has been pushing for more manned missions. I even read something mentioning a manned mission to mars somewhere, that just makes me laugh they can just about get a space shuttle to the moon on the current build their using.

If they were serious about wanting a manned mission to mars they would put all the money into research alternative and new technologies for in space propulsion and wait until a Sky lift is built instead of using huge rocket boosters.

Oh also thought i'd mention that while this talk of manned missions is going on they have similtaniously cut NASA's budget in many research areas :rolleyes:
 
If nuclear fusion takes off then the Moon could be a valuable mining colony as it has large quantities of Tritium. The ground work for that will have to be done in advance. i.e. now.
 
The $6m Dan said:
If nuclear fusion takes off then the Moon could be a valuable mining colony as it has large quantities of Tritium. The ground work for that will have to be done in advance. i.e. now.


Exactly. We wont be able to just make the leap in one - practise makes perfect as it were, and so the more research goes into space exploration the sooner it'll actually happen.

A mission to mars is one of the things I really want to see in my lifetime. (Not first hand, obviously :P) but as a real leap in human experience and achievement I think it would rank alongside a cure for cancer. The prospects are looking pretty good, now that space tourism is starting to pump more money into research and turn it into a profitable industry. IIRC virgin are launching an orbital tour service based on the 'spaceshipOne' rocket in a couple of years. Interesting times!
 
Apollo accelerated advancements in all walks of life, the world would be a different place if we didnt have teflon or velcro, both created for the first round of moon missions.

Anyway, its not our money, its the americans, we should all be thankful that our eggs dont stick to our frying pans, who knows what futher advances the next round of trips to the moon and mars will bring.
 
The hook and loop fastener was invented in 1948 by Georges de Mestral, a Swiss engineer. The idea came to him after he took a close look at the Burdock seeds which kept sticking to his clothes and his dog's fur on their daily walk in the Alps. De Mestral named his invention "VELCRO" after the French words velours, meaning 'velvet', and crochet, meaning 'hook'. Today Beige-a is the leading exporter of velcro in the world.

You will find that the Apollo project had nothing to do with Velcro...

EDIT: Just found this too:

PTFE is sometimes said to be a spin-off from the U.S. space program with more down-to-earth applications; this is an urban legend, as teflon cooking pans were commonplace before Yuri Gagarin's flight in 1961. PTFE was discovered serendipitously by Roy Plunkett of DuPont in 1938, while attempting to make a new CFC refrigerant, when the perfluorethylene polymerized in its storage container. DuPont patented it in 1941, and registered the Teflon trademark in 1944.



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Pah they ain't going its just a load of CGI and wire cords on everyone (this time round)...moon landings never happened we all know that :p :D





/awaits attack of moonfans.
 
Spacky said:
Pah they ain't going its just a load of CGI and wire cords on everyone (this time round)...moon landings never happened we all know that :p :D





/awaits attack of moonfans.

We've already got one thread recently trashed by people saying that sort of thing. Can we not do the same here? ;)
 
Project Orion was originally the name of a study to see if spacecraft could be propelled by detonations of nuclear explosive, released from the rear of the craft . All very interesting, and worthy of a google.
 
Fusion said:
Project Orion was originally the name of a study to see if spacecraft could be propelled by detonations of nuclear explosive, released from the rear of the craft . All very interesting, and worthy of a google.

Also the name of a project regarding the ISS - a Laser broom, designed to sweep debris out of the way of the station. The lunar related Orion is a component of Project Constellation - there is a Wiki article on that here.
 
Saberu said:
I think going to the moon again is utterly pointless. They did it the first time to prove they are the worlds greatest superpower not to sample the moon dust!

We shouldn't go to the moon to sample moon dust, we should go because it's there.

We should definatly go to mars, the amount of new technology required for that would be absolutely amazing and probably filter down to some life changing appliances.
 
I hacked into NASA's computers and found some photos taken during testing! I have to be quick - if I stop posting, you'll know what's happened to me!

orionic2.jpg


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penski said:
I hacked into NASA's computers and found some photos taken during testing! I have to be quick - if I stop posting, you'll know what's happened to me!



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The black backdrop is fake!
 
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