If you remember my first post, l asked if l could water cool my rig for £150, one reply said yes CPU only but l wanted to cool my GPU as well. Well as l'm retired bill's ,etc, come first, so manged an extra £100 that brought the grand total to £250 and that was my limit. Right l thought to my self games on, lets see what l can do with a buget of £250, the only knowlege l have of water cooling is running a Corsair H5Ox2 Apaches.
Which l have had for nearly a year and has worked very well keeping my i7 [email protected] cool temp's never went over 70'c even in this hot spell we have had under normal load(gaming)
About a couple of week's ago l purchased a new > Akasa AK-FN059 120mm Ultra Quiet Viper Cool Fan < which is n improved version of the Apache. So l was pleased with the Viper's better performance and how silent they are and now l can run my i7 [email protected]. I did a review on the Viper fan Review link > http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18148962 < so have decided too use the Viper fan for cooling the radiator in my custom water build.
The first compoment l decided to buy was the > Radiator < as this is main stay of your set up [cooling] What l did was read up a little a bought radiator,s that their size was based on fan size ie:1x120mm(1 fan) Radiator, 2x240mm(2 fan's), 3x360mm(3 fan's), 4x480mm(4fan's) radiator and that is roughly thier length, width roughly:120mm plus, again depth roughly :25mm plus depending on manufacture design!!
So the lenght > width > and depth are important(bigger is better) but as you know Radiator's have row's of tubes which hold the Fin's -
1.More fin's you have per inch (FPI) you need Higher RPM fan's to cool the water flowing through the radiator because the fin's are closer together restricting air flow.
2.Less fin's, low to mid RPM range fan's are needed to cool the water flowing through the radiator as these over less restricted air flow.
3.More tube's is better.
Each manufacture has his own design idea's but based on the above!!
With the fact's in hand l decided to see what the H50 radiator spec's were > 150 x 120 x 22 mm @ 24FPI < and based my hunt for a radiator on that set up because of how it performed, as l have already have a one fan [Viper] that fit's the bill for high density [FPI] radiator my son's bought two more for me.. Nice one lad's.
Akasa AK-FN059 120mm Ultra Quiet Viper Cool Fan £13.99x2 - £27.98
- High performance 12cm fan in killer VIPER yellow colour
- S-FLOW fan blade design delivers 30% higher airflow
- Super silent with PWM auto speed control
- Hydro Dynamic Bearing extends fan life up to 50,000 hours
- Dimension: 120 X 120 X 25mm
- Fan speed: 600 -1900 RPM[high RPM to force the air through the radiator to produce good cooling.
- Max airflow: 83.63 CFM (141.75 m3/h)[high CFM:cubic feet per minute better cooling]
- Max static air pressure: 2.98 mm H2O[ good static air pressure ]
- Noise level: 6.9 -28.9 dB(A) l can just make the fan out when it's at 2000 RPM [set to Max RPM in Bios] but will set the Bios to PWM for the three Viper's as whem l tried it on PWM it Ave 1650 RPM and was silent.
- Fan life expectancy: 50,000 hours
- Connector: 4pin PWM
The three Viper fan's will be set up for PWM in Bios which adjust's the speed of the fan to by how hot or cool the CPU get's. Had a look at what 360x3 [TRIPLE] fan's OCUK had in stock and started reading review's about them > price's start at about £36+ single radx120mm design too quad design 480x4fan's £100+. Also checked the forum's for anything that would help me in my hunt for a good radiator, but also all my component's l buy must be the lowest price l can get via the net!!! as l only have £250.
By reading review's checking the forum's this helped me chose my component's for my Custom H20 set up ordered online, they are as follow's -
Radiator: Black Ice GT Stealth 120.3 120mm Triple Lite Radiator > 397mm x 133mm x 29.60mm @ 30FPI.
CPU-Water Block : Heatkiller CPU Waterblock Revision 3 [Socket LGA1366 Cooper] > design and flow rate [speed of water passing through block] varie's with each manfacture for cooling the CPU / from £30 to about £90.
CPU-Backplate : Watercool HEATKILLER Backplate 1366- this helps to mount the CPU-Block evenly on the mobo + support the weight / manufacture's design varies--£3 to £8.
GPU-Water Block [ just the GPU-core or full cover] : XSPC Razor 5870 full cover [Socket LGA1366] again manufacture's design varies £30 to £100+.
Water Pump - manufacture's design + speed varies > for ''transporting´'' the water through the system at flow rate:lp/h[litre's per hour] £30 to £100+.
Water Reservoirs -The reservoir equalizes the expanding liquid to avoid over or underpressure. It also serves to ''catch'' air bubbles, especially after filling the system.Also the system is filled with water via the reservoir.Theoretically the reservoir is not needed, but for that the system must be perfectly full and without bubbles, but this state is very hard to achieve and impractical, manufacture's design varies £20 to £90+.
Water Pump and Reservoir comdination > manufacture's design varies £30 to £100+ this is what l decided to use and and after again reading review's, forum's this combo did very well -
XSPC X2O 750 Dual 5.25 Bay Res Pump.
Next come's your tubing £2 to £5 per metre and fitting's £3 to£16 [which depend's on which size tubing>based on ID:inner diametor and OD
uter diametor, thicker the wall harder to form bend's] manufacture's spec's vary how it stand's upto temperature's.
Masterkleer tubing PVC 15,9OD/12,7mmID [5/8"OD:3/8"ID] UV-active blue [As l have a Silverstonetek 5.25 > 3.25 bay converter which has a Blue LED fan, this hold's my OCZ SSD AND SATA hard drive]
Fitting's > 16/13 compression fitting 45°DG1/4-compact-black nickelx7 + 16/13 compression fitting G1/4-compact-black nickelx2 £3 to £6.
Screws -
Socket Head M4 [Dia:4.2 mm or 4.5mm] 4x60mm black nickel - these bolt's will clamp together the case>shroud>fan>rad:with a support bracket at the base of the rad itself.
Socket Head M4 x 30mm black nickel [4pcs] x3 - for the middle + bottom fan's on the rad and can add one to the top fan on opposite side given a push / pull config for better cooling, work's well on the H50.
Washer M4-black nickel [10pcs] x2 £2 - to be used as spacer's when fitting fan's.
Coolent - l know some forum member's are against pre-mixed coolent for good reason's, early pre-mixed coolent was a disaster. But l've read a few review's and the coolent is far superior now, my chose is -
Thermochill EC-6 Clear 1000ml x2 £8 -
EC-6 has high thermal conductivity but is electrically non-conductive. It also prevents algae growth and is not sensitive to high temperature changes. The coolant was long-term tested for functionality and shows many positive attributes > The non-toxic coolant has excellent corrosion-suppressing capabilities with many metals such as brass, steels, nickel and Aluminium. Furthermore the compatibility with multiple plastics was tested. Rubber seals, PUR, PVC, acrylic as well as Acetal were all not influenced in the long-term testing.
Last but not least -
Fan Extension Cable PWM 4pin 30cm £2 and some tube cutter's £7inc p&p.
Well the whole lot came to about £276 + £20 for the two Viper Fan's, lol pawned me false teeth [with genuine gold filling's] to get the extra, living on baby food till l get next month's pension lol.
A grand total of = £296, but will be selling my H50 + two Apache fan's in the Member's Market, so l could say the set up cost me just under £250 with the money l get from the H50.
So what l will do is take some photo's as l build it, run the my PC with the new watercooling system in and take temp's etc, all the compoment's have good review's as l say basicly l have very little Knowlege of custom set up's but l have never been a fraid of giving something ago ie: like the set up l have chosen, by reading review's and the form's.
Well my component's will arrive Monday, so the challenege begin's then, since it's my first custom water build it will take a few day's as l don't want to mess up and hopefully get it right first time finger's crossed.
As l have mentioned the rad is getting mounted on the rear of the case, to get enough space to mount the fan's in a push config. l made a shroud [to give the extra space] out of a 120mm fan by cutting the support bar's that hold the motor and blades, and using M4x60mm x4 socket head screw's which sould be more than enough to support the rad + fan's just to be on the safe side l'll make a small bracket to support the rad at its base.
But the people who own the FTO1, know that the 180mm fan's it keep the inside of the case very cool indeed, when l built the PC l bought a 5.25 bay converter to 3.25 which house my SSD + SATA HD's, this also has a blue 120mm fan that keep's them cool. Which allowed me to remove the two HD bay's at the bottom front end of the case, inturn let's the front fan cool the GPU a lot better, the top rear blows air over most the mobo cooling it. The Silverstonetek FTO1 Case work's on positive air pressure pulling air in [via fan filter's] which do a good job.
Well that's roughly it, will it work and how well will it perform cooling the CPU + GPU, as soon as l have built it and ran a few test's, etc, l will let you's now!!
Bring it on!!! looking forward to the challenege.
Oldphart > sorry if the thread's abit long just wanted to explain how l chose my component's and a little insight about them.
Below are link's to a diagram of how l will mount the rad + fan's at the rear of the case to give you's a better idea and two photo's of my component's..
Rad Diagram - C > case, S < Shroud, F1:F2:F3 - Viper fan's, R > rad.
http://i662.photobucket.com/albums/uu347/oldphart2009/UntitledCASE.png
Photo's of component's -
http://i662.photobucket.com/albums/uu347/oldphart2009/Untitled-1.jpg
http://i662.photobucket.com/albums/uu347/oldphart2009/Untitleda.png
Which l have had for nearly a year and has worked very well keeping my i7 [email protected] cool temp's never went over 70'c even in this hot spell we have had under normal load(gaming)
About a couple of week's ago l purchased a new > Akasa AK-FN059 120mm Ultra Quiet Viper Cool Fan < which is n improved version of the Apache. So l was pleased with the Viper's better performance and how silent they are and now l can run my i7 [email protected]. I did a review on the Viper fan Review link > http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18148962 < so have decided too use the Viper fan for cooling the radiator in my custom water build.
The first compoment l decided to buy was the > Radiator < as this is main stay of your set up [cooling] What l did was read up a little a bought radiator,s that their size was based on fan size ie:1x120mm(1 fan) Radiator, 2x240mm(2 fan's), 3x360mm(3 fan's), 4x480mm(4fan's) radiator and that is roughly thier length, width roughly:120mm plus, again depth roughly :25mm plus depending on manufacture design!!
So the lenght > width > and depth are important(bigger is better) but as you know Radiator's have row's of tubes which hold the Fin's -
1.More fin's you have per inch (FPI) you need Higher RPM fan's to cool the water flowing through the radiator because the fin's are closer together restricting air flow.
2.Less fin's, low to mid RPM range fan's are needed to cool the water flowing through the radiator as these over less restricted air flow.
3.More tube's is better.
Each manufacture has his own design idea's but based on the above!!
With the fact's in hand l decided to see what the H50 radiator spec's were > 150 x 120 x 22 mm @ 24FPI < and based my hunt for a radiator on that set up because of how it performed, as l have already have a one fan [Viper] that fit's the bill for high density [FPI] radiator my son's bought two more for me.. Nice one lad's.
Akasa AK-FN059 120mm Ultra Quiet Viper Cool Fan £13.99x2 - £27.98
- High performance 12cm fan in killer VIPER yellow colour
- S-FLOW fan blade design delivers 30% higher airflow
- Super silent with PWM auto speed control
- Hydro Dynamic Bearing extends fan life up to 50,000 hours
- Dimension: 120 X 120 X 25mm
- Fan speed: 600 -1900 RPM[high RPM to force the air through the radiator to produce good cooling.
- Max airflow: 83.63 CFM (141.75 m3/h)[high CFM:cubic feet per minute better cooling]
- Max static air pressure: 2.98 mm H2O[ good static air pressure ]
- Noise level: 6.9 -28.9 dB(A) l can just make the fan out when it's at 2000 RPM [set to Max RPM in Bios] but will set the Bios to PWM for the three Viper's as whem l tried it on PWM it Ave 1650 RPM and was silent.
- Fan life expectancy: 50,000 hours
- Connector: 4pin PWM
The three Viper fan's will be set up for PWM in Bios which adjust's the speed of the fan to by how hot or cool the CPU get's. Had a look at what 360x3 [TRIPLE] fan's OCUK had in stock and started reading review's about them > price's start at about £36+ single radx120mm design too quad design 480x4fan's £100+. Also checked the forum's for anything that would help me in my hunt for a good radiator, but also all my component's l buy must be the lowest price l can get via the net!!! as l only have £250.
By reading review's checking the forum's this helped me chose my component's for my Custom H20 set up ordered online, they are as follow's -
Radiator: Black Ice GT Stealth 120.3 120mm Triple Lite Radiator > 397mm x 133mm x 29.60mm @ 30FPI.
CPU-Water Block : Heatkiller CPU Waterblock Revision 3 [Socket LGA1366 Cooper] > design and flow rate [speed of water passing through block] varie's with each manfacture for cooling the CPU / from £30 to about £90.
CPU-Backplate : Watercool HEATKILLER Backplate 1366- this helps to mount the CPU-Block evenly on the mobo + support the weight / manufacture's design varies--£3 to £8.
GPU-Water Block [ just the GPU-core or full cover] : XSPC Razor 5870 full cover [Socket LGA1366] again manufacture's design varies £30 to £100+.
Water Pump - manufacture's design + speed varies > for ''transporting´'' the water through the system at flow rate:lp/h[litre's per hour] £30 to £100+.
Water Reservoirs -The reservoir equalizes the expanding liquid to avoid over or underpressure. It also serves to ''catch'' air bubbles, especially after filling the system.Also the system is filled with water via the reservoir.Theoretically the reservoir is not needed, but for that the system must be perfectly full and without bubbles, but this state is very hard to achieve and impractical, manufacture's design varies £20 to £90+.
Water Pump and Reservoir comdination > manufacture's design varies £30 to £100+ this is what l decided to use and and after again reading review's, forum's this combo did very well -
XSPC X2O 750 Dual 5.25 Bay Res Pump.
Next come's your tubing £2 to £5 per metre and fitting's £3 to£16 [which depend's on which size tubing>based on ID:inner diametor and OD
uter diametor, thicker the wall harder to form bend's] manufacture's spec's vary how it stand's upto temperature's.Masterkleer tubing PVC 15,9OD/12,7mmID [5/8"OD:3/8"ID] UV-active blue [As l have a Silverstonetek 5.25 > 3.25 bay converter which has a Blue LED fan, this hold's my OCZ SSD AND SATA hard drive]
Fitting's > 16/13 compression fitting 45°DG1/4-compact-black nickelx7 + 16/13 compression fitting G1/4-compact-black nickelx2 £3 to £6.
Screws -
Socket Head M4 [Dia:4.2 mm or 4.5mm] 4x60mm black nickel - these bolt's will clamp together the case>shroud>fan>rad:with a support bracket at the base of the rad itself.
Socket Head M4 x 30mm black nickel [4pcs] x3 - for the middle + bottom fan's on the rad and can add one to the top fan on opposite side given a push / pull config for better cooling, work's well on the H50.
Washer M4-black nickel [10pcs] x2 £2 - to be used as spacer's when fitting fan's.
Coolent - l know some forum member's are against pre-mixed coolent for good reason's, early pre-mixed coolent was a disaster. But l've read a few review's and the coolent is far superior now, my chose is -
Thermochill EC-6 Clear 1000ml x2 £8 -
EC-6 has high thermal conductivity but is electrically non-conductive. It also prevents algae growth and is not sensitive to high temperature changes. The coolant was long-term tested for functionality and shows many positive attributes > The non-toxic coolant has excellent corrosion-suppressing capabilities with many metals such as brass, steels, nickel and Aluminium. Furthermore the compatibility with multiple plastics was tested. Rubber seals, PUR, PVC, acrylic as well as Acetal were all not influenced in the long-term testing.
Last but not least -
Fan Extension Cable PWM 4pin 30cm £2 and some tube cutter's £7inc p&p.
Well the whole lot came to about £276 + £20 for the two Viper Fan's, lol pawned me false teeth [with genuine gold filling's] to get the extra, living on baby food till l get next month's pension lol.
A grand total of = £296, but will be selling my H50 + two Apache fan's in the Member's Market, so l could say the set up cost me just under £250 with the money l get from the H50.
So what l will do is take some photo's as l build it, run the my PC with the new watercooling system in and take temp's etc, all the compoment's have good review's as l say basicly l have very little Knowlege of custom set up's but l have never been a fraid of giving something ago ie: like the set up l have chosen, by reading review's and the form's.
Well my component's will arrive Monday, so the challenege begin's then, since it's my first custom water build it will take a few day's as l don't want to mess up and hopefully get it right first time finger's crossed.
As l have mentioned the rad is getting mounted on the rear of the case, to get enough space to mount the fan's in a push config. l made a shroud [to give the extra space] out of a 120mm fan by cutting the support bar's that hold the motor and blades, and using M4x60mm x4 socket head screw's which sould be more than enough to support the rad + fan's just to be on the safe side l'll make a small bracket to support the rad at its base.
But the people who own the FTO1, know that the 180mm fan's it keep the inside of the case very cool indeed, when l built the PC l bought a 5.25 bay converter to 3.25 which house my SSD + SATA HD's, this also has a blue 120mm fan that keep's them cool. Which allowed me to remove the two HD bay's at the bottom front end of the case, inturn let's the front fan cool the GPU a lot better, the top rear blows air over most the mobo cooling it. The Silverstonetek FTO1 Case work's on positive air pressure pulling air in [via fan filter's] which do a good job.
Well that's roughly it, will it work and how well will it perform cooling the CPU + GPU, as soon as l have built it and ran a few test's, etc, l will let you's now!!
Bring it on!!! looking forward to the challenege.
Oldphart > sorry if the thread's abit long just wanted to explain how l chose my component's and a little insight about them.
Below are link's to a diagram of how l will mount the rad + fan's at the rear of the case to give you's a better idea and two photo's of my component's..
Rad Diagram - C > case, S < Shroud, F1:F2:F3 - Viper fan's, R > rad.
http://i662.photobucket.com/albums/uu347/oldphart2009/UntitledCASE.png
Photo's of component's -
http://i662.photobucket.com/albums/uu347/oldphart2009/Untitled-1.jpg
http://i662.photobucket.com/albums/uu347/oldphart2009/Untitleda.png
