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I am on a virgin media 20meg download speed.
When downloading ps3 demos its painfully slow.
More than an hour and a half for an 850 meg demo.
On my 360 the same size demo takes about half an hour.
 
I am on a virgin media 20meg download speed.
When downloading ps3 demos its painfully slow.
More than an hour and a half for an 850 meg demo.
On my 360 the same size demo takes about half an hour.

Mine go at full speed for both ps3 and 360. Apart from when others are having problems (which sometimes happens on days big demos are released, but the issue is server side).

I am not on Virgin Media though.

I have a 15MB service and I get about 1.2 MB a sec download on either 360 or ps3.

Have you tried both downloads at the same time of day just to make the tests fair? I know Virgin media do throttling etc for users in the evening (based on certain criteria). I can't think of anything else obvious, only your ISP stands out as there are many bad reports regarding them.

I would try to do 2 oldish demos one after the other on the different systems as a test, then try downloading something like XP SP2 on your pc, and see what differing speeds you get (although on 360 it is bit harder to judge how fast the download is going compared to ps3 and pc).


rp200
 
Mine was terrible speed wise too but my 360 and PC flew along. (Even tried wired and same result, had ports opened for PS3)

Might be different on the next one though, hopefully anyway.
 
I can't say I've had any problems, Live seems much worse to me last couple of demos (PES, PGR4) have both been 9hr jobs whether that's because I'm on silver or not who knows.

I know virgin throttle after downloading a certain amount at peak times?
 
Ive havent ever experienced slow download speeds, infact its quite quick! PS Store can be a little slow at times. Maybe its got something to do with cable? As ive always been downloading with ADSL. :)
 
I know virgin throttle after downloading a certain amount at peak times?

Yep 4pm-1am, but I tested both and my PC was pulling in about 2.3mb/s from my newsgroup and my PS3 took 5 hours to download Tekken 5. :D

Obviously I turned off the newsgroup download first. :)
 
Are you guys making sure you have your ports forwarded properly for PSN?

Stuff I download from PSN absolutely flys down the line.
 
Yep 4pm-1am, but I tested both and my PC was pulling in about 2.3mb/s from my newsgroup and my PS3 took 5 hours to download Tekken 5. :D

Obviously I turned off the newsgroup download first. :)

I take it you are with Virgin Media as well (guessing by your 2.3mbps download). Seems like the common link between you and the OPer is the ISP you have.

A better test would be to try something like a service pack or large file download over http. To compare the ps3 download with the newsgroups is silly as they both use different protocols, and often shaping throttling is done by protocol.

tbh it would not surprise me if it was a problem at Virgin Medias end as from everything I have read, they wee having capacity speed issues even before they added the throttling. They are falling into the "greedy" ISP trap of rebranding, advertising like crazy, but not upgrading back end capacity.

I think you can download SP2 from this link to test, I always use this to test. 90% of the time you will be maxed out at your end. I guess on a 20mb connection that should be around 2.4mbs
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...0-73cf11fdcdf8/WindowsXP-KB835935-SP2-ENU.exe


rp200
 
Are you guys making sure you have your ports forwarded properly for PSN?

Stuff I download from PSN absolutely flys down the line.

No port forwarding is required for downloads on ps3 as far as I am aware it is all done over http so no ports needed. If you can browse the store, then you can download from it.


rp200
 
I take it you are with Virgin Media as well (guessing by your 2.3mbps download). Seems like the common link between you and the OPer is the ISP you have.

A better test would be to try something like a service pack or large file download over http. To compare the ps3 download with the newsgroups is silly as they both use different protocols, and often shaping throttling is done by protocol.

tbh it would not surprise me if it was a problem at Virgin Medias end as from everything I have read, they wee having capacity speed issues even before they added the throttling. They are falling into the "greedy" ISP trap of rebranding, advertising like crazy, but not upgrading back end capacity.

I think you can download SP2 from this link to test, I always use this to test. 90% of the time you will be maxed out at your end. I guess on a 20mb connection that should be around 2.4mbs
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...0-73cf11fdcdf8/WindowsXP-KB835935-SP2-ENU.exe


rp200
Hmmm well when my internet is shaped my newsgroup speed is also reduced so I don't think it's anything to do with the protocol, I've never had speed issues with NTL/Virgin and have been perfect with them for like 3 years now. Yeah I had every port forwarded for the PSN and the 'good' NAT type and everything set up, wired/wireless gave same slow speeds.

Tekken 5 wasn't the only slow download though, everything was slow at any time, in unshaped hours too, maybe it was a bad network adapter maybe not, will find out soon anyhow.
 
Hmmm well when my internet is shaped my newsgroup speed is also reduced so I don't think it's anything to do with the protocol, I've never had speed issues with NTL/Virgin and have been perfect with them for like 3 years now.

Tekken 5 wasn't the only slow download though, everything was slow at any time, in unshaped hours too, maybe it was a bad network adapter maybe not, will find out soon anyhow.

Yours is harder to judge, as I think you had a ps3 before the virgin media throttling started.

I suppose you will be able to test better when you get the new ps3. Its just to me the only people who are mentioning slow speed are on Virgin, and I know from many people that they have not been perfect for downloading large files in the past, also any ISP that has to throttle, instead of buy more capacity, tend to always be doing shifty things in the background.

It is just as likely it is not your ISP and some other issue, but you can see my point based on the examples in this thread?


rp200

Edit: I was implying above that how do you know that http is not already throttled, unless you download a large file? imagine they throttled http traffic to 10mb for instance. If you just browse web pages you wouldn't notice the difference, but if you download a large file you will. It is much more widespread for ISPs to use such "stealth" tactics to deal with congestion/contention then you may realise.
 
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Yours is harder to judge, as I think you had a ps3 before the virgin media throttling started.

I suppose you will be able to test better when you get the new ps3. Its just to me the only people who are mentioning slow speed are on Virgin, and I know from many people that they have not been perfect for downloading large files in the past, also any ISP that has to throttle, instead of buy more capacity, tend to always be doing shifty things in the background.

It is just as likely it is not your ISP and some other issue, but you can see my point based on the examples in this thread?


rp200
Nah I had mine the same month the shaping and what not was introduced, I tested it after and before shaping hours and it was the same problem, I tested Multiplayer FTP and was pulling like 1.8mb/s off that then I turned it off went on my PS3 and it took about 20 mins for a 40mb trailer.

I see your point but I can't really think it's the ISP when everything else is working fine, oh well. If I get the same issue again I'm gonna get to the bottom of it.

Also it couldn't have been my router either because I used a direct connection to my modem to test it just remembered that.

Oh well will wait and see what happens. :)
 
Nah I had mine the same month the shaping and what not was introduced, I tested it after and before shaping hours and it was the same problem, I tested Multiplayer FTP and was pulling like 1.8mb/s off that then I turned it off went on my PS3 and it took about 20 mins for a 40mb trailer.

I see your point but I can't really think it's the ISP when everything else is working fine, oh well. If I get the same issue again I'm gonna get to the bottom of it.

Also it couldn't have been my router either because I used a direct connection to my modem to test it just remembered that.

Oh well will wait and see what happens. :)

My edit was too slow (downloading ftp is not a good test). Just out of curiousity could you try the XP sp2 and see what rate you get with a screenshot (maybe from perfmon or something).


rp200
 
The PSN is free so I think they will use slower severs and every 360 demo has come down in a hours, the only one that took ages was Bioshock
 
The PSN is free so I think they will use slower severs and every 360 demo has come down in a hours, the only one that took ages was Bioshock

That is a very simplistic way of looking at things. Just do a search on these forums for download problems whenever a new major demo is released on Live. They encounter capacity issues, and that is on a paid platform. Maybe it only happened to you for Bioshock, but just reading these forums daily (which I am sure you do) should show you it has not been an isolated issue.

Granted Live offers more features than PSN, but if you ask any ps3 & 360 owner about which has been more reliable (ie slow downloads, downtime etc) I am sure they would say PSN is better (just a hunch and obviously this is skewed by the fact Live has more members, but when you pay for the service, you are entitled not to care how many other people use it, when you are getting slow speeds).


rp200
 
Can't recall any Live downtime? only when it's been scheduled

By downtime I mean times when people cannot login etc, unscheduled, there was a glitch this very evening as an example!!! Login was down earlier and also the xbox.com interface was also up and down. Didn't see it mentioned on these forums, but I noticed it and I think a few in the HALO 3 thread noticed.

I'm not saying either service is perfect, just that it isn't as simple as the one you pay for will have faster speeds/stable connection etc.


rp200


Edit: It wasn't the Halo thread, but I am sure it was one of the game arranging threads.
Edit2: Doh!! The thread is called xbox live on page 1!! http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=17790658
Edit3: http://forums.xbox.com/14/ShowForum.aspx Just looking at the front page, shows there was a problem (I haven't read the details). It is laughable to suggest it was an ISP problem tbh
 
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Been on Live all evening never noticed a problem, maybe just an isolated issue with an ISP as is normally the case, will be look on xbox.com cause any problem with login will be a 10 page thread over there :-)

Plus you don't really pay for downloads, you can get them on Silver as well
 
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I am on a virgin media 20meg download speed.
When downloading ps3 demos its painfully slow.
More than an hour and a half for an 850 meg demo.
On my 360 the same size demo takes about half an hour.

Man, my internet sucks.

An hour and a half for 850mb is super speed for my current standards... we're still stuck with 512k & 50kb/s download speeds :(

No doubt my standards will change when/if we move house :p
 
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