PS3 hardware "slow and broken".

HangTime · 8 Jun 2006 at 22:50

SteveOBHave said:
The Inquirers editor needs a foot up his/hers rear end. It is an appalling site where the writers post tenuous facts at best, and to boot, do it with the worst spelling and grammar that I have ever seen.

You would think that on a tech based news page, fact would be first and foremost in your requirements. I picked an article at random (unsurprisingly by Mr Fuad Abazovic) and immediately found a spelling mistake... who proof reads these things before they are put up????

The whole point of the Inquirer from what I can see is getting 'exclusives' or in other words looking at thing long term and posting news about things before other more reputable sites do. They get their traffic by being the first with 'stories' which are often a mix of rumour, speculation and fiction. They can't compete with the more serious hardware sites so this is the angle they have taken.

dirtydog · 9 Jun 2006 at 08:01

In my eyes their credibility has hit a new low with this nonsense article. Any journalist, hell any person with a shred of common sense or intelligence should have realised it was rubbish from the outset. Taking what might be correct technical information and twisting it to draw the most ridiculous and laughable conclusions. Pathetic

benjo plz. · 9 Jun 2006 at 12:59

dirtydog said:
In my eyes their credibility has hit a new low with this nonsense article.

Nah they hit the bottom of the credibility pit. They can't go any lower

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SteveOBHave · 9 Jun 2006 at 14:13

Phnom_Penh said:
Nah they hit the bottom of the credibility pit. They can't go any lower .

LOL - they can start digging

SteveOBHave · 12 Jun 2006 at 10:51

Mr Charlie Demerjian reporting for the Inquirer has piped up with another piece of reporting gold...

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=32343

Allowing his reported gems to ride on more speculation from Kotaku, backed up 'apparently' by a 'Phantom Insider'.

http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/sony/more-ps3-downgrades-on-the-way-179863.php

Charlie appears to be a man waaaay too happy to sit there and pat himself on the back for reporting on unsubstantiated rumours from his 'source' in SONY... anyone else want to be a 'source'? I'm sure that collectively we could convince him that the PS3 is going to be potato powered and be able to play pita bread.

It's not that I'm bothered about the possibility that he might be correct (because I am, and if he is correct, this is going to be a fairly major kick in the teeth for SONY), it's more that I am bothered by his ignominiously presented pap that he tries to push as neutrally posed opinion.

Whatever happened to that little thing called fact? Is it wrong to want it? Should I be ashamed for holding on to my little pipe dream? :rolleyes:

dirtydog · 12 Jun 2006 at 12:19

Woah another vitriolic anti-Sony article from him, full of bile and hatred. Did Sony abuse him as a child or something

Caustic · 12 Jun 2006 at 12:26

If you don't like rumour based articles, don't read them! Is it really that hard?

However, I do think that one from Kotaku is probably true. I don't know about the clock speeds but the external psu makes sense, after all, if the 360 needs 230W, the PS3 must need a fairly similar amount of power, and either way, it is going to need a large PSU. Since Sony have said the PS3 is going to be as quiet as a PSTwo, they have to give way somewhere.

fini · 12 Jun 2006 at 12:27

teabagger said:
The most irritating thing about all this is sites like Bit-Tech who gleefully posted an article stating the hardware might be hobbled, but as soon as credible info came out to debunk the claims there is nothing. I'll be e-mailing them tonight from my non-work address to ask why it is they were so keen to spread rubbish but apparently unwilling to post a follow up article that expained the reality.

maybe because it was all discussed and worked out in their forums? They had the main article reporting that the inq had reported those figures and then if you clicked on discuss you'd see that from about page 2 onwards it was all 'no it doesnt matter and this is why'.

fini

dirtydog · 12 Jun 2006 at 12:45

Caustic said:
If you don't like rumour based articles, don't read them!

It isn't the reporting of rumours per se which is so bad, it's the hysterical tone of his writing which I find objectionable and ridiculous.

LOOKS LIKE THE PS3 is getting to be a better 'value' every day according to Sony's slightly reality-tangential maths.

As a note to the twits who still insist that they saw a 'working PS3' at E3, you were taken for a ride, get over it. Next time, learn the basics of conning the stupid, and look for them.

Sony looks to have one heck of an expensive Zepplin launching in the jet age. If they toned down the arrogance a notch or 12, and started engaging the parts of the press that aren't sycophantic suck-ups, they might be able to either get their side out, or blunt the oncoming storm. Sadly, in typical fashion, they go charging ahead while large chunks of the spec sheet peel off and land in the gutter behind their victorious advance.

How can anyone take him seriously when he writes in such an unbalanced manner.

I did so want this console to be good.

I doubt that very much :rolleyes:

Caustic · 12 Jun 2006 at 12:48

Yeah, I guess the trouble occurs when people don't say something is a rumour, or treat it as such. Even worse when they go way OTT on something they don't understand. (Like the article to which this thread starts about)

SteveOBHave · 12 Jun 2006 at 13:07

dirtydog said:
It isn't the reporting of rumours per se which is so bad, it's the hysterical tone of his writing which I find objectionable and ridiculous.

How can anyone take him seriously when he writes in such an unbalanced manner.

I doubt that very much

This is exactly it - fair call, if he hears something like this then by all means, share it. It's just the "vitriolic anti-Sony" sentiment that seems to exude from every word - as a reporter, I believe, his lean should be on fact not on his personal ill formed opinion.

Caustic said:
If you don't like rumour based articles, don't read them! Is it really that hard?

Yeah, I'd love to give back the 30 odd seconds that it took me to discover the nature of the article. Maybe they could head the articles 'Fact', 'Rumour', 'Pap', 'Written by a drooling moron'.

Oops Dead Again · 12 Jun 2006 at 13:20

This is getting better than the soaps on tv, all the rumours, twists, turns all we need now is to wake up and find it was all a dream. lol

SteveOBHave · 12 Jun 2006 at 20:08

MMMMpppph - Bwahahahahahahaha - Justice is served

Found this whilst Googling Charlie... (Old news but still worth the laugh)

http://news.com.com/5208-1032-0.html?forumID=1&threadID=12897&messageID=100821&start=-1

"Charlie run over by Intel car"

WatchTower · 12 Jun 2006 at 20:20

Why don't Sony actually bring some intresting games out instead of going power crazy. They should take a leaf out of Nintendos book.

MajorPart · 13 Jun 2006 at 01:03

Fact is Microsoft are the best at sticking out false info about competitors, it's hard to trace but does what it set out to achieve. I would put a bet on it they had something to do with the way these figures were reported!!

And great sources there.. :rolleyes:

PS3 will not be owned simple as that.. Sony have had more revenue sales from thier previous console enabling better R&D, they have pretty much the whole asian market sold, and they are sony for christs sakes. They would not make a stupid mistake like that and launch it. If it was relevent to the perforamance and as bad as the article would like you to believe they would just dump it and make a PS4-gen console.

Jap tech beats Yanks everytime.

I won my Xbox360 in a competition and even then i don't know why i still have it.. apart from a select few titles it's not everything it's hyped up to be, it's bland, noisy, bu**ger to navigate and microsoft add ons are expensive.

PGR and Fifa 2006 are the only reasons i'd keep it, but there is STILL not a killer title on it. We all wanted it/have one/want one because it is the ONLY HD console at the mo, but things will change in Nov.

Yes sony has lost out on a lot of sales.. but if they can get enough stock over chrimbo the ps3 will be top dog. a lot of folk are still holding off.. if it were the other way around ps3 on sale first and xbox late would have as many waited?? It has also been long enough for the "must have peeps" to decide that in November the Xbox 360 will be sooooo yesterday..

i can't also see many kids going DAD can get an Xbox from Santa.. no it will be a PS3 please!

It may actually turn out that this length of delay works out better for them. (ie better than launching directly after xbox360)

Maniac618 · 13 Jun 2006 at 01:43

MajorPart said:
and Fifa 2006 are the only reasons i'd keep it

ruins your whole post lol.

McManicMan · 13 Jun 2006 at 07:11

MajorPart said:
Yes sony has lost out on a lot of sales.. but if they can get enough stock over chrimbo the ps3 will be top dog.

i can't also see many kids going DAD can get an Xbox from Santa.. no it will be a PS3 please!

Retailers prepared for PS3 launch shortage

An article by Gamersfirst indicates that the launch of the PS3 will be incredibly 'rocky'. According to them, an internal Gamestop e-mail expressed concerns over how many PS3 systems their chain will be allocated. Stores which received anywhere between 50-100 360's at launch, are preparing themselves to receive no more than 20 PS2's each. Looks like the PS3 launch will wreak havoc and you can expect to see some pretty crazy prices on Ebay for a launch system...

teabagger · 13 Jun 2006 at 09:58

fini said:
maybe because it was all discussed and worked out in their forums? They had the main article reporting that the inq had reported those figures and then if you clicked on discuss you'd see that from about page 2 onwards it was all 'no it doesnt matter and this is why'.

fini

Yes, but I'd wager the vast majority of visitors to Bit-Tech don't actually visit the forums and just skim through the articles.

SteveOBHave · 13 Jun 2006 at 10:16

teabagger said:
Yes, but I'd wager the vast majority of visitors to Bit-Tech don't actually visit the forums and just skim through the articles.

More to the point, why should you have to explore a 'news' pages forums to discover the validity of an article??????

They should have the gumption to stand up and say, sorry our previous article was written by a numpty and was entirely misleading.

Boogle · 13 Jun 2006 at 12:12

MajorPart said:
Fact is Microsoft are the best at sticking out false info about competitors, it's hard to trace but does what it set out to achieve. I would put a bet on it they had something to do with the way these figures were reported!!

And great sources there.. PS3 will not be owned simple as that.. Sony have had more revenue sales from thier previous console enabling better R&D, they have pretty much the whole asian market sold, and they are sony for christs sakes. They would not make a stupid mistake like that and launch it. If it was relevent to the perforamance and as bad as the article would like you to believe they would just dump it and make a PS4-gen console.

Jap tech beats Yanks everytime.

All companies engage in this sort of thing. However if it is a 'fact' that MS are the 'best', then you'll need to prove it. Facts are only facts if they're guranteed accurate.

Actually, if you actually checked financial records you would find that Sony, like most massive consumer companies has a pretty tight profit margin (less then 5%, compared to MS & Intel which are 30%+). You'll also notice Sony are starting to slip in the 'Asian' market, with the DS outselling the PSP quite significantly. And the Wii looking like it will (at least initially) outsell the PS3 by a sizeable margin. Sony also couldn't drop the PS3 under any circumstances, since an absence of a generation of hardware would knock them out of the console race, from a place they wouldn't be able to recover for two reasons: It costs a LOT of money to develop for a console, devs won't develop for a console that isn't popular (how big is the GC catalogue again?), and Sony at this point would have had a critical hit to their rep as the company that dumped their super-hyped console because it was no good, and therefore this next one can't be any good either.

Sony make plenty of mistakes. The PSP is dualcore... in a portable device. Its critical for a portable device like this to save as much power as possible, that means being as efficient as possible. In current games that means single-threading, ie. 1 core. The second core makes the system less efficient for the target software, and invariably reduces battery life. As you can see by its poor battery life compared to the DS, which while graphically inferior, has more games, better games, and is selling better.