PS3 update 1.81 today?

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Theres a new version of firmware being released on the 15 June, nothing exciting just a fix for some HDMI issues.

Most notably is the RGB Full setting which a few of you wrote in about. In 1.80 we added an option to the XMB under settings allowing you to choose between RGB Full and Limited. Basically if you are connecting your PS3 to your TV using an HDMI cable, and if your TV supports RGB full range, the picture quality may be improved when this option is set to Full. Some of you pointed out that the Full setting would sometimes revert back to Limited and 1.81 will address this issue. Please keep in mind that this setting is only effective when the PS3 is connected to a TV using an HDMI cable. You can download the update tomorrow from PlayStation.com or through your System Update option on the PS3 XMB.

Not sure if its going to affect anyone here but thought id Post it as I use Full range RGB settings it was annoying that every now and then it would revert back.
 
Just downloaded it, nothing major. It's more of a tweak to the 1.80 update than a full update.

It's possible that new PS2 games have been added, but since Sony doesn't even bother to update the site it's a case of wait and see.
 
Thanks for the post.

Just updated, and it works.

I turned full RGB back on, reset my brightness controls to compensate for the darker image, and then loaded an SD-DVD, as before, when quitting, the PS3 would default back to non-full RGB, even though it still said full RGB in the menu.

When I quit out, it definitely returned to full RGB, so the update works.

It's still going to be a bit of a hassle to use though, as on my Sony 40w, with full RGB off, if I calibrate my brightness, the best setting is 42. This is where the screen is as black as it's going to get.

With fullrgb on, this level changes to 61... the point where the screen gets as black as it's going to get. When loading an SD-DVD, it obviously temporarily disables full RGB while you watch it, resulting in the screen being waaaaay too bright. I have to manually turn the brightness down to 42 to watch a DVD, then turn it back up to 61 when I quit.

Not sure what can be done about that... except maybe a setting in the PS3 for different brightness levels for each rgb mode.

Anyway, early days yet, just did a quick test, I'll have a proper play when I have more time.

V1N.

Edit: not just sd-dvds, bluray movies too bright too. So the choice is whether to leave fullRGB on, and have the brightness set for that, so games/XMB/video&photos etc are correct, but manually turn the brightness down when playing a dvd/bluray, and back up when finished, or just leave it on limited RGB... which I think I'll do ;)
 
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andy said:
nice of them to actually listen and then fix stuff :)
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Yes, now if only they could bring out some more PSN games and more demo's instead of movies about their advertising campaign it would be really cool.
 
Just noticed a few more new things today, on the PSN.

The Time Attack mode for Motorstorm is there.

Few "classics" Rampart, and Joust.

and yet more video ;)

Darkness: Story Trailer
Super Stardust HD trailer
Lair Trailer
Haze Ubidays Trailer
Paul Hollywood interview.

Ah well, shall download and take a look regardless, and install the time attack mode.

V1N.

EDIT: and read what it says before downloading the time attack update ;) I didn't, and blindly clicked it, and promptly broke it, and Motorstorm wouldn't load any more, just crash with a black screen while loading. It says to load Motorstorm first, go online, download the update from there... (which is the new 1.2 by the way) :) then load the time attack update.

I deleted my Motorstorm 1.1 update from the "Game Data Utility" in the XMB, then Motorstorm would load again, and allow me to update to 1.2. (just in case anybody else is impatient, and does it too) ;)

V1N.
 
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no. sony only mentioned the full rgb issue in their update notes. they also said that ps2/ps1 compatibility was in constant testing, but they didnt menif anything else had been added to the compat. list.

V1N said:
With fullrgb on, this level changes to 61... the point where the screen gets as black as it's going to get. When loading an SD-DVD, it obviously temporarily disables full RGB while you watch it, resulting in the screen being waaaaay too bright. I have to manually turn the brightness down to 42 to watch a DVD, then turn it back up to 61 when I quit.

Not sure what can be done about that... except maybe a setting in the PS3 for different brightness levels for each rgb mode.

Anyway, early days yet, just did a quick test, I'll have a proper play when I have more time.

V1N.

Edit: not just sd-dvds, bluray movies too bright too. So the choice is whether to leave fullRGB on, and have the brightness set for that, so games/XMB/video&photos etc are correct, but manually turn the brightness down when playing a dvd/bluray, and back up when finished, or just leave it on limited RGB... which I think I'll do ;)
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you're still having problems with that? :confused: i dont know anybody else who has that problems with a 40w and a ps3. i certainly dont:( have you tried changing your bd/dvd output to Y Pb/Cb Pr/Cr instead?
 
james.miller said:
you're still having problems with that? :confused: i dont know anybody else who has that problems with a 40w and a ps3. i certainly dont:( have you tried changing your bd/dvd output to Y Pb/Cb Pr/Cr instead?
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Yep, I gave up on it before, seeing as full rgb was reset each time the PS3 was rebooted, or a DVD/Bluray loaded.

Seeing as the setting sticks now, I thought I'd give it another go.
Full RGB is no longer reset after a reboot etc, but my display is darker when I select it... tested with that black background with various shades of grey/white boxes on. Turning my Bravias brightness up to 61 is about right, but when I load a DVD/bluray, the blacks are grey. Tried Y Pb/Cb Pr/Cr, exactly the same.

V1N.

Edit: Ahha! Manually setting the bd/dvd output to RGB seems to have sorted it though. The black level is still correct, set at 61.
(Other sources, like tuners/scart are still set to 42 for best black however)

I also found the easiest way to calibrate the brightness is to load a DVD, and press the circle, and set the black level on the Do you want to quit playback? screen. On Y Pb/Pr/Cr, this screen is grey, with RGB, it's black. I'm sure I tried this before the 1.81 update, and it was still grey on RGB. No matter, it's working now, and I do believe the colours look more vivid with full rgb on
 
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V1N said:
Just noticed a few more new things today, on the PSN.

The Time Attack mode for Motorstorm is there.

Few "classics" Rampart, and Joust.

and yet more video ;)

Darkness: Story Trailer
Super Stardust HD trailer
Lair Trailer
Haze Ubidays Trailer
Paul Hollywood interview.

Ah well, shall download and take a look regardless, and install the time attack mode.

V1N.

EDIT: and read what it says before downloading the time attack update ;) I didn't, and blindly clicked it, and promptly broke it, and Motorstorm wouldn't load any more, just crash with a black screen while loading. It says to load Motorstorm first, go online, download the update from there... (which is the new 1.2 by the way) :) then load the time attack update.

I deleted my Motorstorm 1.1 update from the "Game Data Utility" in the XMB, then Motorstorm would load again, and allow me to update to 1.2. (just in case anybody else is impatient, and does it too) ;)

V1N.
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Well we're starting to catch up with the US store , and there not impressed we got the time attack before them :D
Anyway give us some heads up when you install it (prob best on a new thread or its gonna get confusing in here)
 
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Edit: Ahha! Manually setting the bd/dvd output to RGB seems to have sorted it though. The black level is still correct, set at 61.
(Other sources, like tuners/scart are still set to 42 for best black however)

I also found the easiest way to calibrate the brightness is to load a DVD, and press the circle, and set the black level on the Do you want to quit playback? screen. On Y Pb/Pr/Cr, this screen is grey, with RGB, it's black. I'm sure I tried this before the 1.81 update, and it was still grey on RGB. No matter, it's working now, and I do believe the colours look more vivid with full rgb on
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hmmm i was going to say try resetting the ps3 to defaults, maybe something is stuck. i still dont get why you're 40w is displaying everything so dark lol
 
james.miller said:
hmmm i was going to say try resetting the ps3 to defaults, maybe something is stuck. i still dont get why you're 40w is displaying everything so dark lol
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Yeah, also an idea.

I don't understand it either.
It's not too dark with limited RGB, only when I turn it on.
Even then, it's not so dark as you'd notice immediately, only when you turn the brightness up, and you notice certain details that were just black before, come to life when you turn it up. As I've said, the sweet spot seems to be a brightness of 61 when full rgb is on, but 42 on limited.
It's still usable with the brightness lower, but you're missing more detail.

It's difficult to explain unless we both have the exact same software/pictures on our systems... which is why I used that boxes picture as an example, from the other thread. All boxes visible at 42 on limited, but only a few visible on full rgb, until brightness at 61. Another example is Calling all Cars. When I go to select the game from the XMB, and the full screen picture appears before you click to load.. when the brightness is at normal (42) more of the wall is black with shadow... turning the brightness up slowly, and more and more of the wall is revealed as slightly lighter shades, until you get to the 60's, which is when the black level itself starts to get brighter too.

V1N.

Edit: out of interest, have you tried boosting the brightness on your 40w, after the 1.81 update, and with full rgb on? Just to see if your black level has also risen? It still looks OK at 42, it's not until you do turn it up, you notice. I know it's not only me, as I've read elsewhere of people turning up their brightness to compensate with full rgb. But I don't know anybody else with a 40w/PS3.
 
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oh yeah, i know what you mean, you explained it pretty clearly. the thing is, full RGB or Y Pb/Cb Pr/Cr, my display is absolutely spot on with a brightness of 42. any higher and it starts turning blacks in to greys. very odd:s

the boxes for example, i can see them all at 42. And also the thx logo on thx sd-dvd's - i can see the drop shadow of the logo at anywhere above 42

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Edit: out of interest, have you tried boosting the brightness on your 40w, after the 1.81 update, and with full rgb on? Just to see if your black level has also risen? It still looks OK at 42, it's not until you do turn it up, you notice. I know it's not only me, as I've read elsewhere of people turning up their brightness to compensate with full rgb. But I don't know anybody else with a 40w/PS3.
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yeah ive had a play around. even a brightness of 43 affects solid blacks
 
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james.miller said:
oh yeah, i know what you mean, you explained it pretty clearly. the thing is, full RGB or Y Pb/Cb Pr/Cr, my display is absolutely spot on with a brightness of 42. any higher and it starts turning blacks in to greys. very odd:s

the boxes for example, i can see them all at 42. And also the thx logo on thx sd-dvd's - i can see the drop shadow of the logo at anywhere above 42
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That is odd then.
That's how mine behaves on limited RGB.
Definite, very noticable difference for me.
Out of interest, what version of firmware does your 40w have?
I read there was an update recently.

Mine is 2.15.512

V1N.
 
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yeah i got 2.5.512. that update (2.5.512 is the latest) was only for the freeview tuner though.
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D'oh, what a noob ;)

Well, I don't know why.

I've tried to take a few pics of what I mean, but trying to take a pic of black levels off a TV isn't the easiest ;)

You can still see the different though

Try to notice the size of the shadow on the right hand side

This one is a brightness of 61



and this one at 42



Obviously it's a lot more noticeable "in the flesh" but even from these pics, you can see the shadow extends a lot longer when the brightness is at 42.

Oops, excuse the date... had to change the batteries in my cam, and didn't reset it ;)

V1N.
 
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