PS4 new hdd

apostolis_kt

apostolis_kt

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Hello,

I am about to buy a PS4 and was wondering the following.

Should i change the internal hdd to a 2tb one the moment i buy it or can i do it in the future? Can i back up the installations of the games that the 500HDD will have in the future?

I am asking this as my internet connection is 2Mbps max (rural area) and i wont have the will to download 400GB of data in games. At least for the ps3 i was able to do that in the past but i dont know if the PS4 can do it with the limitations it has now with external hdds which would be the way to back up the files i suppose.
 
If you're definitely going to change it at some point then you may as well do it straight away.
AFAIK there is no way to back up installs, obviously this is not an issue for the disc-based stuff but if you have digital downloads it'll be a pain. Updates though can be done overnight - if you leave the PS4 in standby mode it will automatically update an installed games whilst in standby.
 
Oh absolutely, as I said anything you buy digitally will be a pain, also there are some games with enormous patches - Wolfenstein has an 11GB patch, even on a decent connection it took me 3.5 hours to download!!
 
Is there no way to hook both HDDs up to your pc and clone the old one to the new one if you are doing it at a later date? Id be very surprised if not even if it is a bloody faff.
 
Well i would just plug the ps4 500gb hdd to the pc, copy the whole thing there then copy back only the non os files to the 2tb one AFTER i would install the OS in it. But no one mentions anything online and everybody is talking about redownloading. Either everyone out there has super wow network speeds and don't care or not many ppl needed to do it and there is no info online
 
A 500GB hard drive is plenty big enough for 95% of gamers I would imagine.

A tyipcal game is around 10-15GB. Some only a few GB and some rare ones are around 20-30GB.

I would wait and buy an SSD when you can pick up a 512GB one for less than £100
 
Psycho Sonny said:
I would wait and buy an SSD when you can pick up a 512GB one for less than £100
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you will be waiting a long time then!

i changed my hd the moment i got my console delivered on launch day to this 1tb sshd http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-283-SE
yes i know people say a normal 2.5'' 7200rpm is faster but i actually dont have many games and the ones i do have i play a lot, i dont keep playing differnt games all the time. so the sshd is fine for me, boots up quicker, loads maps quicker and is quieter than the stock.

i would definately upgrade the hd and get nothing less than a 1tb which will last you a very long time. ssd, hd or sshd is up to you
 
i read about ssd's and its too expensive for the minimal advantages it provides, maybe an sshd would be indeed a good idea. I need to check actually i have a 2tb Samsung external lying around if it has sata 3 i will pop it open and use that.
 
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apostolis_kt said:
i read about ssd's and its too expensive for the minimal advantages it provides, maybe an sshd would be indeed a good idea. I need to check actually i have a 2tb Samsung external lying around if it has sata 3 i will pop it open and use that.
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yeh, if your not paranoid about speed like some of us :p and you arnt using it then go ahead and never change it again!
like i said sshd is only good for if your playing the same game over and over again
 
OvEr_KiLL said:
you will be waiting a long time then!

i changed my hd the moment i got my console delivered on launch day to this 1tb sshd http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-283-SE
yes i know people say a normal 2.5'' 7200rpm is faster but i actually dont have many games and the ones i do have i play a lot, i dont keep playing differnt games all the time. so the sshd is fine for me, boots up quicker, loads maps quicker and is quieter than the stock.

i would definately upgrade the hd and get nothing less than a 1tb which will last you a very long time. ssd, hd or sshd is up to you
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512Gb for less than £100 within 12 months would be my guess they are already hitting <£150 atm.

that isn't a long time in my books.

also hybrid drives only have a very small cache it's like 4GB or something. that means 4GB of data will load quickly but the other 1020GB on your hard drive will load slower than a fast 2TB mechanical drive.

hybrid drives IMO especially large ones are useless, better off with a 500GB hybrid than a 1TB one. that way you still get the 4GB cache and only 496GB of slow data.

apostolis_kt said:
i read about ssd's and its too expensive for the minimal advantages it provides, maybe an sshd would be indeed a good idea. I need to check actually i have a 2tb Samsung external lying around if it has sata 3 i will pop it open and use that.
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minimal advantages? it loads a lot faster than hybrid and mechanical in fact everything is faster.

SSD > HYBRID = Large Mechanical > Mechanical (stock)

SSD will load you 5-10 seconds faster into a multi-player map compared to stock.

A hybrid or a large mechanical will be more like 1-3 seconds faster.
 
By the way i meant the above comment having in mind a few reviews i have seen comparing the ssds with hdds and hybrid ones for the ps3 and ps4.if i was to load a game 5 seconds faster but still wait for the other slow people to load in multiplayer cases then there is not much point. I dont know probably i would like to see a change like how wow was the change to an ssd in computers but 5 to 8 seconds load times better in some cases i cannot justify the price for that.
 
apostolis_kt said:
By the way i meant the above comment having in mind a few reviews i have seen comparing the ssds with hdds and hybrid ones for the ps3 and ps4.if i was to load a game 5 seconds faster but still wait for the other slow people to load in multiplayer cases then there is not much point. I dont know probably i would like to see a change like how wow was the change to an ssd in computers but 5 to 8 seconds load times better in some cases i cannot justify the price for that.
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in games like BF4 that means you can choose a vehicle before they are all taken.

same goes for destiny where in the crucible there are limited tanks, etc.

it also means less pop ups in demanding games, smaller loading times in single player games, etc.

there is no point IMO in upgrading from the stock drive unless your going to go for 500GB hybrid, 2 TB mechanical or SSD.


hopefully new hybrids are released which have 20GB of cache space, if something like that was released then there would be no point in SSD's tbh unless you were showing off e-penor


i own a 500GB hybrid atm, but the plan is to go SSD or upgrade to a better hybrid with much larger cache
 
I have a 1tb SSD in my PS4 and it Is quicker but nothing amazing, it's also slowed down a fair bit since I first installed, I doubt the PS4 is set up to handle SSD's. Tbh I would go for capacity over speed seeing as every game does a full install.
 
Thats the other thing i read that ssds go slower overtime in the ps4 which seems to me that they are not supported or trim is not.

It is really tempting to go ssd for the multiplayer reasons but i have a 250gb one on my 775 socket desktop out of principal i cannot have an ssd bigger in the ps4 :)

So 2tb mechanical it is i just need to find one
 
PS4 handles modern SSD's fine, it's older ones that can have issues.

SSD will not slow down with time but a mechanical drive will.

Also 1TB hybrid drives have the same size of cache as 500GB hybrid drives, pointless buying a 1TB over the 500GB IMO as most would never fill a 500GB drive.

Delete games you don't play and you should always have at least 100GB free
 
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