psvr on original ps4

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will the new psvr coming out soon, work with my ps4. or will i need the more powerful ps neo. as i heard it was not a nice experience on the ps4 thats why they made the neo.
 
It will be fully compatible.

Speculation is that the Neo might allow higher fidelity and run at a higher true framerate rather than say 45FPS reprojected to 90, but it's just speculation.
 
Nismo said:
Speculation is that the Neo might allow higher fidelity and run at a higher true framerate rather than say 45FPS reprojected to 90, but it's just speculation.
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Now we know the Neo is a real product , surely its pointless if its not clearly a higher fidelity?

(obviously will be cheaper for Sony / its partners to produce, but they wouldnt need to re-name it if thats all it was)

Obviously what we hope for performance wise before release isnt usually where the hardware usually is at the start (if ever) but there has to be "some" performance increase
 
FrankJH said:
Now we know the Neo is a real product , surely its pointless if its not clearly a higher fidelity?

(obviously will be cheaper for Sony / its partners to produce, but they wouldnt need to re-name it if thats all it was)

Obviously what we hope for performance wise before release isnt usually where the hardware usually is at the start (if ever) but there has to be "some" performance increase
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Neo will be mainly Sony's means of pushing 4K and their TVs, VR performance may be an added bonus.
 
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if Neo is capable of 4k then by default its higher fidelity and performance than the PS4 :)
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The Roku 4 and Amazon Fire TV can do 4K. Are they capable of VR? :p

Just because it's enabled for 4K video content (which I think is what Sony really want to push with this) doesn't mean it will make a massive difference to games.

Of course joking aside, it will offer better performance to developers, but it's up to them and how Sony mandate they use the additional horsepower that will count.
 
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Nismo said:
The Roku 4 and Amazon Fire TV can do 4K. Are they capable of VR? :p

Just because it's enabled for 4K video content (which I think is what Sony really want to push with this) doesn't mean it will make a massive difference to games.

Of course joking aside, it will offer better performance to developers, but it's up to them and how Sony mandate the additional horsepower they use it that will count.
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Absolutely no relevance to Roku or amazon fire at all.

The current PS4 is not viable for 4k, doesnt have the horsepower or the outputs to make it viable.

The updated PS4 / Neo is viable for 4k and therefore by default has potential (at the very least) for higher fidelity than the current PS4
 
FrankJH said:
Absolutely no relevance to Roku or amazon fire at all.

The current PS4 is not viable for 4k, doesnt have the horsepower or the outputs to make it viable.

The updated PS4 / Neo is viable for 4k and therefore by default has potential (at the very least) for higher fidelity than the current PS4
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the problem is, even the current top of the line PC GPU's are not really viable for 4K @ 60hz and the PS4Neo doesn't even have an equivalent to a top end PC GPU... they will (finally) be able to run most games at 1080p/60hz, but 4K/60hz, no way, not without massively comprimised settings making it pointless doing 4k over upscaled 1080p
 
FrankJH said:
Absolutely no relevance to Roku or amazon fire at all.

The current PS4 is not viable for 4k, doesnt have the horsepower or the outputs to make it viable.

The updated PS4 / Neo is viable for 4k and therefore by default has potential (at the very least) for higher fidelity than the current PS4
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Although my Roku/Fire TV point was made in jest, it still has relevance.

You keep saying "viable" for 4K. Just because something can output at 4K doesn't "by default" mean it will be better for games.

4K capable for video content and 4K capable for powering games at that res. are two completely different things. I've no doubt the Neo will have more horsepower than the standard PS4, but I genuinely don't think VR or improved game performance generally is their main reason for releasing it. They want a cheap, easily obtainable box that everyone can put in their living rooms to boost sales of their 4K TVs.
 
You could ask Giles or Jeff from Llamasoft - they are working on a PS VR title and have had nothing but positive things to say about ps vr - they have even said that the 120hz of the PSVR headset make things smoother than DK2 Occulus. I believe they only use a standard PS4 with it. They are both very approachable so I'm sure they would let you know - here is a link to a lively VR thread on there site:
http://www.yakyak.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=84237&start=1935
 
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I think people have way too high expectations for this PSVR to be honest. The PS4 is very dated now hardware wise and i doubt this NEO is going to be much better as most console players hate shelling out for upgrades. I doubt very much that the neo is going to be able to play any recent games in anything close to 4K and ive been reading that demos of the PSVR is making feel sick which is down to poor frame rates. My expectations for PSVR are not set high, somewhere between Gear VR and DK2...anything more will be a bonus.
 
I think part of the reason for the Neo is that AMD basically forced Sony by closing down the manufacturing of the original PS4 and telling Sony they would have to move on or pay a hefty amount to keep the production lines open for the original hardware.

Sony will have seriously messed up if they annoy Original PS4 owners with this. I certainly won't be happy about it if my PS4 has to be replaced with the Neo at a cost of probably about £300 as well as the cost of the PSVR. Sony should come up with some kind of fair trade-in deal for original PS4 owners to upgrade, one can hope but I'm sure that won't happen.

4K or even 8K cannot take off to it's full potential until we get the broadband infrastructure in this country (and many others around the world) sorted out to cope with it. I can't see us ever getting an over the air 4k or 8k TV broadcast through an ariel and if we eventually do, it will be many many years away yet. We can't even get 1080P through freeview now (only 1080i) so the only possible options are satelite or via the internet. With the advent of 4K BluRay things are less reliant on broadband I suppose but even patches and updates etc are going to be huge downloads that are wholly reliant on broadband. It takes long enough now to download updates. Mass storage costs are not too bad so perhaps now is the time to start pushing it and maybe that is in the Sony game plan with this Neo. Perhaps it is more to do with 4KBD and 4KTV than it is for PSVR and gaming improvements but they just figured they might as well make the gaming improvements as well because AMD wanted to close down the original PS4 hardware manufacturing. I personally don't have a 4K TV, I'm still on 1080P but if and when the TV's break down and need replacing then there probably won't be any option other than a 4K (or perhaps an 8K by then) and these companies know this. We will all be pretty much forced into 4K and eventually 8K.

It is all speculation and guesswork at this point but we're not that far away from October so we'll know soon enough..
 
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Ive never been a Playstation fan and have never even bought anything playstation related, but one thing they do well is make a loss on their hardware. I personally wouldnt dare use the PSVR on an original PS4 as the fact a NEO is coming at the same time is blindingly obvious its to match the power needed. Sorry if this breaks your heart but its the facts. (I dont buy all this "its to push 4K tv sales" theory. People more and more stream online. one/two months of subscription = one 4k BD movie purchase. What would you do? )

This loss on hardware is good news for PSVR as im confident the NEO will provide an 'as good' VR experience as the VIVE. I think it will be the equivalent of getting a recommended rig and VIVE for half the price. Sony will take the hit initially but they always make up for it with software sales - and they have a HUGE lineup coming from established developers and not these indie types jumping on the bandwagon with tech demos. Even that Radial G game everyone is showing off in their VR demo reels is just glorified late 90s bog standard racing sim. YEAH MATE. HERES 700 CLAMS! ILL BUY IT! *sigh* wish they would make a proper ******* future racing game these days.

Anyway. I just cant help but see PC VR as an experiment for the next couple of years and any early adopters thinking its going to change their gaming forever will be dissapointed every time they see such an expensive piece of kit gathering dust on the shelf next to them, only plugging in to impress your mates on the odd visit! When the Version 2's come out along with 'proper' games, then I'll buy into it big time.
 
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