Publishing your own first book - experiences and tips?

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I just came across this question from one of my nieces. She is studying agriculture but is very talented in music, making short films and writing stories.
On the one hand she's a tough cookie, but on the other hand she's very introverted and shy.

Personally, I have next to no idea when it comes to publishing. What about you?

Is there anything (course of action, expectations, experiences?) you can recommend?

That would be great!
 
Self-publishing was also first idea that came in my mind- but I think that's not that easy. You have to take care about the whole process all by yourself. Do you have any experiences with layout, cover, marketing? Maybe give it a try with traditional publisher?
 
Well, I would say it's more of an experiment ... Gathering experience, being creative, not really just a hobby, but not yet professional. Getting a contract with a traditional publisher would be great, of course. But what are the chances of being accepted as a new author? Even if you have written a really good book, that doesn't necessarily mean that publishers will recognise your potential. In this case, it's not yet about success ... because you not only have to be a damn good author, you also have to be a bit lucky.....
 
Yeah think you are right. Getting a contract with a traditional publisher is hard. What about service publisher? Have you heard about this opportunity? A childhood friend did the process with Novum Publishing and was happy with that. He is not super famous now- but well known in hometown and surrounding area.
 
Ah, okay, that sounds exciting too. I'll take a closer look at that. I'm already on the road again, but I'm going on holiday with my family in August, so I'll have more time to build up a useful collection of information about publishers and what you can do yourself to get published. I'm looking forward to seeing what comes out in the end. I think you have to weigh up all the pros and cons first.

The question is also whether it's worth hiring someone for layout and editing, I think that's an additional cost factor that should remain manageable overall.
 
Yeah good idea- take your time, think about your options and the advantages and disadvantages. And I would suggest to speaking with many people you can- personal experiences are always useful and the best information source you can get, I guess. Have you tried it with the traditional publishers? Maybe with a small one? Wish you nice holidays!
The question is what you want to achieve with your project. If it should seem professional, a good layout and editing is needed.
 
She has looked at all the different options, but doesn't know what would be the best solution.
I think she's going to try classical publishers for once. Maybe she will be lucky and get a positive answer. She doesn't trust herself to do the process on her own, so self-publishing would probably be the last option for her. Service publishing also sounds good, so she would have someone on her side who really knows his stuff and doesn't have to ask people who also have no idea:)
I want to support her as much as I can, I see how often she backs off and doesn't actually do what she really wants.
 
I can't say much as I've no experience with publishing, but IIRC there are a few guides from the likes of the "Writers Beware" blog which is affiliated with the Sci-fi and Fantasy Writers of America association and covers a lot of the potential scams and issues that can pop up when someone is looking to get published.

As a pretty much iron clad rule unless it's "vanity" publishing or self publishing (and even then within limits) then "money rolls towards the writer" and any agent or publisher who asks for an upfront fee is likely dodgy as the main job of agents and publishers is to get an authors book out there and the agent gets their money from what the publisher pays the author (so a huge incentive for an agent to get a good deal for their client).
Also Never sign away the rights forever, and that any additional "media" or "regions" will get additional payments - there are some very scummy people and companies out there that will prey on new writers and do things like offer very low fees and in return try and get all the rights (a lot of writing competitions are exceptionally dodgy in that regards from what I hear, as they often have clauses that can give them all the rights to any submission even if it doesn't "win" a prize).

I think the best place to start if looking for traditional publishing is to either look for an agent (or more rarely) an editor in the field who has open positions for new clients/submissions.

For fiction work there is also the option of looking for magazines that have open submissions.
 
I have to agree with Werewolf. You should read every contract precisely, before singing it. But that's a rule for life, I guess. Not everyone has the luck to find a good agent. The market is big, and many people want to get a writer! So going with a service publisher is a good possibility to make first steps in the writing world. Sure you have to invest some money in the process- but it does't matter for which option you decide-you always have to invest in your book. It is only important to find an agent or service publisher you can trust in. I heard good experiences with Novum Publishing for example. They have transparent conditions and the co-workers are friendly and explain to you everything. You can just contact and ask for the possibilities of working together. No need to decide it right away. Also with agents-just contact them and ask for information. I guess it is important to not be shy.
 
I can't say much as I've no experience with publishing, but IIRC there are a few guides from the likes of the "Writers Beware" blog which is affiliated with the Sci-fi and Fantasy Writers of America association and covers a lot of the potential scams and issues that can pop up when someone is looking to get published.
She has already told me about that, fortunately she has already read through that. I think she is well informed in this direction.
As a pretty much iron clad rule unless it's "vanity" publishing or self publishing (and even then within limits) then "money rolls towards the writer" and any agent or publisher who asks for an upfront fee is likely dodgy as the main job of agents and publishers is to get an authors book out there and the agent gets their money from what the publisher pays the author (so a huge incentive for an agent to get a good deal for their client).
Also Never sign away the rights forever, and that any additional "media" or "regions" will get additional payments - there are some very scummy people and companies out there that will prey on new writers and do things like offer very low fees and in return try and get all the rights (a lot of writing competitions are exceptionally dodgy in that regards from what I hear, as they often have clauses that can give them all the rights to any submission even if it doesn't "win" a prize).
I know this statement, but I can't really understand it.
Let's say I want to publish through self-publishing - then I also have to look for an editor, graphic designer,... look for. These services are not offered to me for free, that's their job.
She has also read about the rights more than once. You have to be careful not to give everything out of your own hand. There are also some negative examples.
I think the best place to start if looking for traditional publishing is to either look for an agent (or more rarely) an editor in the field who has open positions for new clients/submissions.
Agents are more common in English-speaking countries. In Europe they are rather few represented. Certainly, they exist here with us too, but it is not so common. If you find a good agent, it certainly helps her, but I think she wants to try it without and contact the publishers directly.
You can just contact and ask for the possibilities of working together. No need to decide it right away. Also with agents-just contact them and ask for information. I guess it is important to not be shy.
That's where she's at right now. She is now writing to some small publishers in the region. Even some that have been recommended to her. Then let's see what comes out of it.
She won't do anything until she is completely sure and has no more reservations. At least nothing where she can't get out.
 
I agree with your opinion. Everything comes with a prize and writing is a hobby like others-you have to invest something, to get out a good outcome. But I guess some people are still dreaming of writing something phenomenal and getting famous and rich with that all along. Like the author of Harry Potter.
Think your niece is on a good way-can only wish you good luck at this point!
 
If a hobby can become something more, then you can focus more on it at a certain point. But I wouldn't bet everything on it right from the start. We support them, of course, but no one has ever said to put everything on this card. That would simply be too uncertain. Her studies are going very well and she's already working alongside her studies.
You can dream as long as you don't dream in real life :)
Thank you for your help. I also hope she can develop a little more in her writing and go her own way.
 
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