Q4 2022 seems to be a predictably good time to build a new PC (in theory)

[g67575]

Looks like you will be able to build a system with a 5nm AMD CPU next year, with a RDNA 3 GPU that is probably TSMC 6nm based (just like Intel's upcoming 'XE' 6nm based graphics cards).

The big if for AMD will be, will people be able to buy an RDNA 3 graphics card at reference model price (or slightly more)?

Slightly updated GPU roadmap here:
https://cdn-bnofo.nitrocdn.com/YCOq...ontent/uploads/2021/06/AMD-RNDA-3-Roadmap.jpg

 

[Troezar]

Looks like you will be able to build a system with a 5nm AMD CPU next year, with a RDNA 3 GPU that is probably TSMC 6nm based (just like Intel's upcoming 'XE' 6nm based graphics cards).

The big if for AMD will be, will people be able to buy an RDNA 3 graphics card at reference model price (or slightly more)?

Slightly updated GPU roadmap here:
https://cdn-bnofo.nitrocdn.com/YCOq...ontent/uploads/2021/06/AMD-RNDA-3-Roadmap.jpg

Yes promises to be a good time with hopefully more availability and lots of competing products.

 

[Deleted member 209350]

Also Nvidia's new generation of GPU's, though im not sure if thats Q4 2022 cause it seems like it'll be later

 

[Dg834man]

How expensive will DDR5 be at launch and how bad are the timings going to be? don't personally jump straight on new platforms

 

[humbug]

Zen 4 + RDNA 3

 

[McGraw]

Been waiting since 2014. I have to wait another year for a platform upgrade?

 

[g67575]

Also Nvidia's new generation of GPU's, though im not sure if thats Q4 2022 cause it seems like it'll be later

Fairly sure there will be 5/6nm GPUs from Nvidia next year, probably with more VRAM for the mid end cards. These would be part of a new series (similar to Ampere but more power efficient, a problem many reviewers have commented on).

I don't think it matters what the codename is much, I think people always focus on this too much (the codename may not tell us much anyway).

AMD is set to provide a lot more competition (due to FSR and likely improved production capacity) with Nvidia next year, I'm sure Nvidia will be able to release something new. They have such an advantage over AMD (the doubling of raw TFlop processing power with Ampere surprised many of us I think), why would they let this slip?

UPDATE - I'd guess most of you have already seen this roadmap:
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-ampere-next-hopper-2022

So, it's 'Ampere Next' produced by Samsung in 2022, then 'Ampere Next Next' in 2024 (I think the 'Next Next' has just been pencilled in though... Is that really what they're calling it right now? Maybe they've come to the conclusion that fancy codenames don't actually impress anyone?

At least that largely dispels vague rumours about other architectures.

 

[g67575]

How expensive will DDR5 be at launch and how bad are the timings going to be? don't personally jump straight on new platforms

People can stick with DDR4 on Alder Lake. It will be interesting to see if AMD follows Intel's lead on this and offers the ability to remain on DDR4, or get a high end board with DDR5 support. I think this could make a lot of sense if high speed DDR4 5000mhz ever comes down in price. But, I think a lot will be tempted to keep using their DDR4 RAM, especially if it is high spec. I wonder if memory controllers supporting DDR4 @ 5000mhz will be possible?

I mean, they could just standardise Quad channel DDR4 RAM on AM5, that would provide an excellent performance boost, likely more than upgrading to DDR5.

In the long term though, I think Alder Lake will be the last DDR4 Intel CPU generation, might be better to wait for Raptor Lake (or whatever odd name they decide to call Alder Lake's successor) to use DDR5 RAM.