Q6600 reaching 85c on bios screen monitor

2Drunk2Funk · 17 May 2013 at 22:15

Old PC running Q6600 started turning itself off. On checking the BIOS i saw the cpu reaching 85c then turning off pc.
The fan was running and i have a non retail cooler, dont recall name but it is quite large so i could overclock.

I dug out some (very) old artic silver II which still comes out looking fine. I cleaned off old gunk with cloth and nail polish remover. I then (after 10 mins) applied a very thin layer using an old credit card. I also added a slither to the cooler copper base.

Am i doing something wrong?
Anything else i could try?

Thanks

Marine-RX179 · 17 May 2013 at 22:32

Could it be the mounting mechanism of the heatsink has expired, and that it can no longer tighten enough to pull the heatsink downward to press down enough onto the CPU?

Or if it is using one the push-pin method for mounting, may be 1 of the pin didn't go all the way through and the cooler is not sitted properly?

Orcvader · 17 May 2013 at 22:45

Try the rice grain method instead of spreading it out? Have you checked that the cooler is actually making proper contract with the CPU?

2Drunk2Funk · 17 May 2013 at 22:48

It has 4 pins for base mount but the cooler has 2 screws to secure to the pinned base. Sure the screws were tight when i put back together. Will take apart again tomorrow and check them.

Not sure what the rice method is?

Litmoose · 17 May 2013 at 22:59

Just put a pea sized amount of paste on the centre of the cpu and let the heat sink spread it when pressure is applied.

Marine-RX179 · 18 May 2013 at 08:45

I did consider mentioning the paste spread method, but I thought even if the spread method did trap air-bubbles, I don't think big enough of an issue to the point of pushing the temp that high.

May be OP should check what vcore is his CPU on first?

2Drunk2Funk · 18 May 2013 at 20:10

Update...
Looks like the cooler is coming loose.
The cooler is the Artic cooler freezer 7 pro rev 2.
It has a metal "wing" arrangement that you screw into a plastic frame mounted on the motherboard. Although the 2 screws seem to hold the unit secure and screw tight as soon as i clip on the fan the whole cooler is loose again.
Not sure what i can do with it.

I have an old cooler with just the 4 pins arrangement and wondering to try that. The trouble is the existing black plastic "frame" is clipped into the mobo and although i can remove the pins the white plastic plugs are still securely holding the frame to the mobo. I dont think i can remove that to try the other unit without taking the mobo out of case and squeezing the plugs to remove them.
Will i have to do this? Pain in butt removing all and connectors just to remove white plugs

PCZ · 19 May 2013 at 00:42

You don't need to dismantle anything to remove the frame.
The white plugs have a tab which you grip and pull out.
They are pins that go through the centre, splaying the plugs out.

ukxenon · 19 May 2013 at 02:43

just a couple of twists and it will be off so you can clean the tim and redo and all sorted

troops · 19 May 2013 at 03:20

That type of pin can be a real pain sometimes.

Akagi · 19 May 2013 at 04:29

Litmoose said:
Just put a pea sized amount of paste on the centre of the cpu and let the heat sink spread it when pressure is applied.

A pea is far too much.

A cooked rice grain size should be ample.

No idea where the 'pea size' suggestion cropped up from originally...

2Drunk2Funk · 19 May 2013 at 14:51

White pins, i dont see any squeeze points to remove them. Anyone removed this type before?

MagicBoy · 19 May 2013 at 14:59

Yours are the Arctic Cooling mounts. PCZ is on about the Intel OEM push pins.

If memory serves you get to the Arctic ones from behind the mainboard.

Confused Stu · 19 May 2013 at 15:17

Yours are this sort of pin:
http://www.arctic.ac/en/p/spare-parts/358/pushpins-new-cpu-coolers.html

As you can see, once you've removed the central black part, the white part should just pull through - they're not attached at the back.

2Drunk2Funk · 19 May 2013 at 17:21

Well they would not come out without me feeling like excessive force so I ended up taking all apart and squeezing them through from the reverse. They were clipped out so I could not see how they were supposed to be able to come out without taking mobo from chassis.
Anyway, swapped to old cooler I had with the spring loaded 4 pins (pain in arse) but secured and now showing 33c idle in BIOS. Need to find a monitor app so can see what its up to in windoze
Thanks all for feedback

fishingcat · 19 May 2013 at 17:23

I recommend HWMonitor for monitoring.

Good to see you got your problem fixed!

MagicBoy · 19 May 2013 at 17:25

Try coretemp. It reads straight off the CPU die sensors, plus there's an optional Windows 7 gadget thing.

Any idea what's up with the old heatsink?

PCZ · 19 May 2013 at 17:58

You just had to remove the pins, the black parts.
grip the top and pull them out.

Someone suggested I was talking about the Intel OEM cooler pins, I was not.
I have used the F7 mark II before.
Thought it a bit flimsy.

MagicBoy · 19 May 2013 at 18:10

I've got a name.

<- It's over there.

wp-t31os · 20 May 2013 at 10:21

Freezer 7 installed in 2 systems(other rocking a Ninja), second time in one system because the original was damaged..

Never seen temps those high, and the cooler does make sufficient contact on the three i've fitted, before and after the fan is attached(that really shouldn't affect the positioning or the contact it makes).