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Q6600 Vs. E6850

davejuk

davejuk

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What's the better choice / value for money since there's very little between them price wise.

Intel Core 2 Quad Pro Q6600 "LGA775 Kentsfield" 2.40GHz (1066FSB) - Retail
Quad Core Technology, 2.40GHz clock speed, 8MB L2 Cache, Intel Speedstep Technology, EM64T 64-Bit Technology, Execute Disable Bit, 3yr Warranty.

Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 "LGA775 Conroe" 3.00GHz (1333FSB) - Retail Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 "LGA775 Conroe" 3.00GHz (1333FSB) - Retail
Dual Core Technology, 3.00GHz clock speed, 4MB L2 Cache, Intel Speedstep Technology, EM64T 64-Bit Technology, Execute Disable Bit. 3yr Warranty.
 
stinka said:
id say get the quad and clock it over 3 ghz
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I am interested in this also!

Would it be hard to clock it over 3GHz? Would be using a Gigabyte GA_P35C_DS3R mobo.. which RAM would you suggest for the clocking [edit: might mention that I am thinking of these ones, OCZ 4GB (2 x 2GB) PC2-5400C5 Dual Channel Vista Upgrade Gold Series DDR2 (OCZ2VU6674GK), would they be any good?] and would I need a CPU cooler or would the stock one be enough?

Sorry for slightly hijacking the thread but this was something I been thinking about.. :o

Cheers
Tom
 
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stinka: I was leaning towards the quad-core but I'm not too into overclocking.

TheSwede: No problem, I'd be interested in the replies too.
 
q6600 on a ds3r should fly over 3 ghz and well beyond

imo id use geil blackdragon pc6400 of the crucial balistix pc6400

id stick with 2gb of ram unless your unfortunately on vista :p, dual booting my self
 
I'd say the E6850, it'll overclock better and be supported by more programs.

The main reason for me not wanting a Q6600, is that you'd be on the bottom rung of the quad core ladder, and I'd have little use for it. Gonna wait till there's more choice and prices drop. But I'd imagine the Q6600 is better value for money and obviously allows you to dabble into quad core area sooner.
 
Shimmy said:
The main reason for me not wanting a Q6600, is that you'd be on the bottom rung of the quad core ladder
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Not once you'd OCed it to 3Ghz and you had a £650 CPU for £200.
 
Mattus said:
Not once you'd OCed it to 3Ghz and you had a £650 CPU for £200.
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Suppose, but still doesn't have my vote. And I look at current value against what I can get in the near future, as opposed to what X cost at a certain time.

Kind of like getting a basic hatchback and tweaking it a bit, when newer better models are just down the road which will eventually come down in price.

Crap analogy I know :D
 
Shimmy said:
Suppose, but still doesn't have my vote. And I look at current value against what I can get in the near future, as opposed to what X cost at a certain time.

Kind of like getting a basic hatchback and tweaking it a bit, when newer better models are just down the road which will eventually come down in price.

Crap analogy I know :D
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There's ALWAYS a new product right around the corner.

And old models will ALWAYS come down in price.
 
On July 22nd Q6600s should drop to £180ish. Reckon this is the best value you're gonna get for a while, nothing faster will be out until Penryn, which will carry a price premium and won't be drastically quicker.
 
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davejuk said:
There's ALWAYS a new product right around the corner.

And old models will ALWAYS come down in price.
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I know, but I'm very selective with my buying and timing lol.

Hence why I haven't updated in 3 years, also because I haven't needed to.

As soon as I see that I'm starting to pay the price for not updating, I'll go hunting for new parts ;) .

Another reason, I haven't seen much competition in the quad core market. So I want to wait and see what the best price/performance ratio will be in the next year or two.
 
I think a lot of people are asking themselves this question around now.

Personally I'm erring towards to the E6850 as it's faster (and however high the Q6600 overclocks, you can be pretty sure the E6850 will go higher still) and very little takes advantage of quad cores right now.

I keep finding myself thinking "ooh, would love a quad core" but if I'm honest with myself, some of that would simply be bragging rights - the dual is the logical choice I think.
 
Vertigo1 said:
I think a lot of people are asking themselves this question around now.

Personally I'm erring towards to the E6850 as it's faster (and however high the Q6600 overclocks, you can be pretty sure the E6850 will go higher still) and very little takes advantage of quad cores right now.

I keep finding myself thinking "ooh, would love a quad core" but if I'm honest with myself, some of that would simply be bragging rights - the dual is the logical choice I think.
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That's fair enough right now, but if you do plan to hold on to the same processor for a while, then the quad would seem more long lasting. Apart from Supreme commander etc. there are more games due out from September on that are supposed to use quad cores, hl ep2, tf2 etc. Of course, to what extent they actually use four cores remains to be seen.
 
Well I've been wondering whether to switch from AMD to Intel come the end of this month or wait for Penryn. On the one hand I'd feel gutted if I switched then found Penryn came out a couple of months later and was a much better bet.

Part of me say Penryn will command a hefty price premium over Conroe but the other part says the forthcoming price cuts are largely to let Intel shift stock in preparation, which suggests Penryn won't be that much more expensive.

So do I wait or do I go with an E6850 now and then upgrade to (possibly quad core) Penryn later? Do we yet know whether the P35/X38 mobos will definitely support Penryn?
 
Vertigo1 said:
Do we yet know whether the P35/X38 mobos will definitely support Penryn?
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They will definitely support Penryn though they may require a BIOS update to properly recognise them.

Jokester
 
Thanks for that.

I think, rather than jumping at the end of July, I might wait a month or so. By then there should be some more info on how well the new CPUs clock plus hopefully some more concrete info on Penryn launch dates & pricing.
 
davejuk said:
What's the better choice / value for money since there's very little between them price wise.

Intel Core 2 Quad Pro Q6600 "LGA775 Kentsfield" 2.40GHz (1066FSB) - Retail
Quad Core Technology, 2.40GHz clock speed, 8MB L2 Cache, Intel Speedstep Technology, EM64T 64-Bit Technology, Execute Disable Bit, 3yr Warranty.

Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 "LGA775 Conroe" 3.00GHz (1333FSB) - Retail Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 "LGA775 Conroe" 3.00GHz (1333FSB) - Retail
Dual Core Technology, 3.00GHz clock speed, 4MB L2 Cache, Intel Speedstep Technology, EM64T 64-Bit Technology, Execute Disable Bit. 3yr Warranty.
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You cant just say this one is better than the other. You have to decide on the basis of what you use your pc for. Will you be overclocking, running multiple programs at once etc....
 
One thing to remind all you "overclock a q6600 to 3GHz plus no problems" :o

Have you actually had a quad core?
Do you realise how much heat these things kick off?

Back when I had one with a Titan Vanessa on it my one I had would hit 70 degrees in no time at all, even a single SuperPi 1MB run was enough.

If your happy with temps idling in the 50s, and loading in the 70s very easily by all means go for it.

These things really require watercooling, and on that note, now I have a loop, I wish I still had my quad xeon! :p
 
I only wish i could i could be bothered reading up about watercooling as it kind of needs it but im getting used to the 50 idle temps but thats with 1.52v through the q6600, though its strange i need that for only 3.26ghz ... stock temps are fine though.

Also i can run 3dm06 at 3.5 but needs 1.57 or something...maybe just a not so great clocker.
 
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