Qantas is grounding its entire fleet =/

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Time for a new CEO it looks like. The one they have should go back and change a light bulb with his mates :p

Its ****ed Airline prices down here:(

After tiger got grounded and cant fly many flights at the moment we only have Virgin Australia putting out most the flights down here, And JetStar who are owned by Qantas and only seem to have a couple flights from each airport daily.

Virgin will be loving life!

Qantas is grounding its entire fleet and locking out its staff in response to unions' industrial action.

The airline is fighting with its pilots, ground staff and engineers over pay, conditions and the outsourcing of jobs overseas.

In a shock move, Qantas boss Alan Joyce announced today all domestic employees involved with the dispute will be locked out as of 8pm (AEDT) Monday, but the fleet would be grounded immediately.

Both the international and domestic fleet have been grounded indefinitely.

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"We are locking out until the unions withdraw their extreme claim and reach an agreement with us," Mr Joyce said.

"It's an unbelievable decision, it's a very hard decision ... we have no alternative. This is the fastest way to ensure the airline gets back in the air."

Mr Joyce said his hand had been tipped by the impossible demands of three unions.

"They are trashing our strategy and our brand," he said.

"They are deliberately destabilising the company and there is no end in sight."

The move comes as a result of a long-running industrial impasse between Qantas and three unions: the Australian and International Pilots Association (AIPA), the Transport Workers Union (TWU) and the Australian Licenced Aircraft Engineers Association (ALAEA).

Mr Joyce said if the industrial action continued, Qantas would have no choice but to shut down its business "part by part".

QantasLink and Jetstar will not be grounded.
Government concerned

The Federal Government was told about Qantas' plan for the first time this afternoon.

Transport Minister Anthony Albanese has expressed frustration, saying the Government is extremely concerned about the future of Qantas, its workforce, and also the travelling public.

Mr Albanese says he is disappointed by Qantas' decision "made on a Saturday morning with notice to the Government mid-afternoon, one day after an annual general meeting."

"I would hope the parties to this dispute act like adults," he told a press conference this afternoon.

"[The Government] remains of the view, that with a little bit of commonsense and acknowledgment that there is a common interest between management and employees a solution can be found."

Mr Albanese says the Government played a role in facilitating discussions between Qantas and the employees, but at no stage has there been a request for government intervention.

He says the Government will be making an application to Fair Work Australia over the dispute.

They are trashing our strategy and our brand. They are deliberately destabilising the company and there is no end in sight.
Alan Joyce


The aircraft engineers union says it is not surprised Qantas would take such extreme action as grounding its fleet and locking out workers.

"I think this is an extreme measure for the CEO and airline to take given we've cancelled our industrial action for the next three weeks," ALAEA federal secretary Steve Purvinas said.

The leadership of the Australian Workers Union says they will be meeting tonight and tomorrow on the crisis.
Refunds, ticket transfers

Mr Joyce said he was sorry the course of action had become necessary but the ball was now in the unions' court.

"They must decide just how badly they want to hurt Qantas, their members ... and the travelling public," he said.

The airline said at 5pm (AEDT) on Saturday there were 64 aircraft in the air, 36 domestic and 28 international carrying more than 7,000 passengers.

In total 108 aircraft will be grounded in 22 airports around the world.

The airline will offer hotel accommodation and alternative flights to those who are mid-journey and cannot get home when the grounding takes effect.

And there will be refunds and ticket transfers available to passengers whose flights are cancelled.

Qantas will keep passengers updated on the situation via its website, Facebook page and Twitter.

The airline says 13,305 passengers are booked to travel on Qantas planes from overseas ports to Australia in the next 24 hours.

About 1,310 international passengers may be at international airports now waiting for their flight to depart.

Earlier, Mr Joyce said operations could be slashed by 50 per cent within a year, resulting in thousands of jobs lost, if its industrial disputes continue into 2012.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-10-29/qantas-locking-out-staff/3608250
 
thought for a moment the title was "Santa is grounding his entire fleet" i was instantly worried about christmas... phew
 
Santa can ground his fleet if he wants! :p

As for this, well, it's an interesting approach to industrial relations. That's for sure. That said, your unions sound a bit like ours - me, me, me and everyone else can go to hell.
 
There’s nothing like a good lock out to bring the employees to their knees….. Dons cloth cap and heads for the picket line.
 
If only we could adopt a similar approach to the greedy overpaid public sector workers!

With it costing the company $20mil a day then they might aswell just give every one there pay rises.
Its just ****ing air travel for everyone in this country.
 
With it costing the company $20mil a day then they might aswell just give every one there pay rises.
Its just ****ing air travel for everyone in this country.

which will work until next year when the unions decide they want some more money and go on strike again, strikers are short sighted scum who dont care about the damage they do to the company and other peoples lives as long as they get what they want.
 
which will work until next year when the unions decide they want some more money and go on strike again, strikers are short sighted scum who dont care about the damage they do to the company and other peoples lives as long as they get what they want.

How else do you try to effect change? Sit at home writing angry letters to youf boss/mps. Good on them for standing up for themselves and striking, if a lot more people started striking instead of trudging on moaning about life, they might actually influence a change
 
Isnt this striking 101 though? They are looking to move operations to Asia, i.e. cutting lots of jobs as the Australian economy is way too strong thus expensive to employ, and the employees are disgruntled and dont want this to happen.

Bit silly to do it at such short notice though, not a great way to endear yourself to your public.
 
How else do you try to effect change?

Discourse and working towards solutions that don't alienate the people who pay your wages.

Sit at home writing angry letters to youf boss/mps.

No.

Good on them for standing up for themselves and striking, if a lot more people started striking instead of trudging on moaning about life, they might actually influence a change

Or grind countries into the ground.
 
Why are people blaming "overpaid" workers here?

The CEO got a $2m raise this year but he feels he needs to break the workers salary? That's everything that's wrong with the world at the moment.

The company is on course to make $490 million pre-tax profits this year too, not like they're struggling.
 
Fair play to them, stick together, don't let these CEOs and bosses that don't care about the workers, have to laugh at them moving parts of the business to Asia, same old think about profits and us rather than the people that actually fly, fix and look after the passengers.
 
Why are people blaming "overpaid" workers here?

The CEO got a $2m raise this year but he feels he needs to break the workers salary? That's everything that's wrong with the world at the moment.

The company is on course to make $490 million pre-tax profits this year too, not like they're struggling.
For the CEO of a $15 Billion company to be earning big money is not unusual, it's standard. He or she is steering the entire enterprise, which is an enormous responsibility and requires significant skill.

Should it be a requirement that any profit making company increase the wages of its workers upon request?
 
For the CEO of a $15 Billion company to be earning big money is not unusual, it's standard. He or she is steering the entire enterprise, which is an enormous responsibility and requires significant skill.

Should it be a requirement that any profit making company increase the wages of its workers upon request?

I think the company should decide that for itself, if the workers want to strike for what they feel is underpaid work, then that is their choice also.

Angry consumers are a given, which is the point, since shareholders would eventually give in.

After all the CEOs job is to get as much profit to the shareholders without harming the company, which is fair, but frankly a system has to be worked out to give the workers pay increases every so often, it would calm them down and the morale would be high.

I don't see why business has to be centered solely around appeasing shareholders because after all they lose out if the workers suddenly find that they don't like the way things are run anymore.

Frankly Work ethic around the world needs to change to a more convenient and perhaps democratic way, though maybe that's too much for little ol' greed.
 
... strikers are short sighted scum who dont care about the damage they do to the company and other peoples lives as long as they get what they want.
Whereas the kind-hearted FTSE-100 CEOs who reluctantly accepted an increase of nearly 50% last year lie awake all night worrying about the well-being of their workers and other people's lives :confused:
 

I agree - 'profit at all costs' is the issue I think the vast majority of people are having at the moment with large corporations.

Fair do's if you want to move part of your operations - but how can you expect the parts of your workforce that this affects to sit back and take it? They're humans, like the CEO is a human. They want whats best for themselves, just like the CEO wants whats best for themself. Majority of the CEOs I come across are in it for the money, the CV and to make themselves look awesome by making drastic 'hard-line' changes, oh and supressing as many subordinates as possible.
 
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