Question about 2142 "spyware"

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That disclaimer drops out the box. Now im fairly sure they have to tell you if it's going to do that sort of thing, hence the paper in the box.

So what about me, i preloaded it and didnt get told anything like that... so if it's on my pc is it illegal? And if not.... then yay i can play safe in the knowledge that EA are ********
 
I don't know then really, they'd have to mention it. Not sure where you stand on this, I can't see EA having made a mistake not to mention it SOMEWHERE along the line of preloading..but who knows!
 
DevilsAdvocate said:
I don't know then really, they'd have to mention it. Not sure where you stand on this, I can't see EA having made a mistake not to mention it SOMEWHERE along the line of preloading..but who knows!

If i have it and they DIDN'T mention it., how much do you reckon i could sue them for? ;)
 
If indeed they havn't mentioned it somewhere, then there probably will be grounds for you to take some action against EA..as to what form I don't know! I'm sure someone else will be able to help more. :D
 
Its preloaded - but you haven't played it yet. They might add the extra info at the last second (as they seem to have done in the game box). As for it being illegal, its probably not. Even though they store a unique ID for you (this is the part that is borderline), everything else is anonymous. They don't store personal information about you, hence they aren't breeching the data protection act. If they could match the unique ID to your EA account, then that I'm pretty sure would be cause for a court case. However, the fact that they store a unique ID for you is definitely borderline, and imo wrong. I'll attempt to find where the unique ID is and make an app to clear that every time you run the game. If the ID is the same each time (not different, as a GUID should be) then its clearly identifying YOU rather than just 'a user' and therefore is illegal and even against their own disclaimer that says its anonymous.

The EA advertising software does NOT check your web browser, cookies, or the general state of your PC. Its contained entirely within the game itself, covering things like what angle you looked at an advert, how long, and what the advert was. This is essentially the same as normal Internet adverts, tracking views & clicks.

Maybe the paper was added at the last minute because the US doesn't have a data protection act, but the EU does? It was all above board until they suddenly realised it wasn't so above board over here and had to act quickly.
 
When they did this with Swat 4 they didn't add the function to the 1.1 patch for the UK just the US. It's possible our laws prevent it or more likely they don't have any UK advertisers willing to take part yet.
 
But surely installing software on my machine against my knowledge or consent is considered hacking or somesuch? since it's preloaded they would have put it on my machine before giving a "last minute" warning.
 
badgermonkey said:
But surely installing software on my machine against my knowledge or consent is considered hacking or somesuch? since it's preloaded they would have put it on my machine before giving a "last minute" warning.

UT2004 just installs text->speech/voice recog software without asking you. When you install UT2004 you'll see a seperate installer pop up for a few seconds, then disappear. Some games also install a new version of DX without asking, which really annoys me due to having the DX SDK installed.

I did go into further detail, but its definitely a grey area.
 
Un-install, then re-install videotaping every moment and all the legal stuff. Then if they change it you have hard evidence you were mislead.
 
Boogle said:
The EA advertising software does NOT check your web browser, cookies, or the general state of your PC.

The agreement does however specify 'other anonymous information' which pretty much covers anything on your PC as long as it doesn't identify you. The software mightn't do cookie scans at the moment, but you're agreeing to let it rifle through your entire PC any time EA decide that they want to change the software.
 
Sleepery said:
The agreement does however specify 'other anonymous information' which pretty much covers anything on your PC as long as it doesn't identify you. The software mightn't do cookie scans at the moment, but you're agreeing to let it rifle through your entire PC any time EA decide that they want to change the software.

If it did rifle through your PC I'm sure there would be an even worse outcry than there is now, the game would be dead shortly after.
 
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