Question about AVRs and 4K

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I'm thinking of buying my partner a 4K TV for his birthday. We have an Xbox One S for the 4K source. Currently it runs through a Yamaha AVR box (RX-V573).

This actually says "4K pass-through", though I had never recalled it having 4K support before. However, it's pretty old and I see no mention of HDCP 2.2, HDR for example. I really just want to make sure that I can still use it as I like the 5.1 sound I get from it. Can I continue to feed the signal through it from the XBox? Alternately, is there a way of feeding the sound back out from the TV to it if the former is problematic?

Any other gotchas I should look out for? :)
 
It does technically do 4k pass-through, but not HDMI 2.0 which means no HDCP 2.2 and not at 60hz which you will really need.

You may find it limited to 24hz otherwise, which means games will run at 24 fps which is too slow

Or you can operate the Xbox at 1080p
 
hyperseven said:
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XBox -> TV -> AVAmp using ARC
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Thanks. The TV I'm looking at does have ARC so as long as this works okay, I guess I can continue to use my existing AVR.

I'm in two minds about getting the TV. I can and I'm sure it would be a significant improvement over my current TV (a 1080P LCD bought about seven years ago) but I have this feeling we're about to see another bump up in TV performance and maybe the same money would get something much better in six months time.
 
New AVR time tbh.

ARC isn't ideal, neither is using optical out for all your 4K sources.

Also with a new AVR you will get a host of new more modern features which you will ikely use.
 
Yeah I stuck with my existing AV when I got our UHD tv but its a massive fail. You ideally need a proper UHD compatible AV receiver. I got the Denon 2300 and its a beauty and have no problems with UHD TV etc. Its the HDCP2.2 that does it you need an AV that has at least one output which is HDCP2.2. I went for the Denon as all the outputs are HDCP2.2. ARC works fine too but we rarely watch the TV Freeview.
 
I'm using an older amp which just takes an optical out from the TV, don't see the problem tbh! Certainly not worth spending another £200-300+ just to get passthrough.
 
Russinating said:
I'm using an older amp which just takes an optical out from the TV, don't see the problem tbh! Certainly not worth spending another £200-300+ just to get passthrough.
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Majority of tv's only pass a stereo signal out their optical out. Those that don't are few and far between and then they can only output certain signals. It's just not good use of your system.
 
Neither ARC nor optical will pass-through uncompressed formats such as DTS Master Audio or Dolby Atmos.

If you are an audiophile and have a decent surround sound system then it's a no brainer to get a new receiver.

Having said that, I'm not sure I would be tell the difference between DTS 5.1 and DTS HD Master Audio using the same speakers if I were doing a blind test (I've never tried)
 
Psycho Sonny said:
Majority of tv's only pass a stereo signal out their optical out. Those that don't are few and far between and then they can only output certain signals. It's just not good use of your system.
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Are you sure about that? I'm not aware of any TVs in the last few years that only output stereo via optical.
 
Well, I could get a new AVR. It would add a few hundred to the total cost though and I'm not sure I like my partner quite that much. ;) It's an option but I honestly don't know that I'd hear any difference - it's not exactly a dedicated home cinema room. It's just my living room with speakers artfully position. I do hear people raving about Dolby Atmos but then I'm on the slippery slope to buying more speakers and so on...

The TV I was considering isn't high end. It's a Hisense 55" HDR. That's honestly larger than I'd like. The current TV is a 38" Panasonic Viera from way back which has always been fine for me. We sit about nine feet away from it. However, 4K TVs don't come in smaller sizes. Which would make sense except that what I think would be really good would be the HDR which really doesn't matter what size it is. There's a Panasonic 4K TV with HDR which I have considered. I like the fact that it has Firefox OS. I really dislike the idea of having some increasingly out of date Android device plugged in at home all the time which is an annoyance with the Sony ones.
 
I just bought a new tv and my receiver is similar yourrs.
My PS4 pro and sky both work wonderfully using ARC. Try it before you go and buy a new AVR
 
h4rm0ny said:
However, 4K TVs don't come in smaller sizes. Which would make sense except that what I think would be really good would be the HDR which really doesn't matter what size it is. There's a Panasonic 4K TV with HDR which I have considered. I like the fact that it has Firefox OS. I really dislike the idea of having some increasingly out of date Android device plugged in at home all the time which is an annoyance with the Sony ones.
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I have a 43" 4K tv with HDR there is also 40" tv's with HDR. So they do come in smaller sizes. You could even buy a monitor especially if you have seperate speakers already.

I highly doubt cheap hisense tv's have the ability to output surround sound through optical as well. completely defeating the purpose of having an AVR and surround sound speakers unless your going to use one of their cirtual surround modes.
 
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