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Question about DX11 cards,

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Hi guys i'm seriously considering getting one of the new DX11 cards when they release but i'm kind of worried about them bottlenecking my CPU (Phenom II X2 550) I know the 5870 will definitely bottleneck it but i'm unsure as to how much. So my question is would i be better off with a 5870 or a 5850 or will i still bottleneck with that? I have a 4850 now if anyone is curious and i play at 1280x768 (32 inch TV) BUT i play with max settings. I know the 4890 is always an option too but i really want one of those DX11 beauts :P Thank you.
 
My phenom II x3 at stock does not bottleneck a 4850, yours wont bottleneck at stock, i would say that with a minimal overclock, possibly unlocking extra cores, you could definatley have enough juice to power one.
 
My phenom II x3 at stock does not bottleneck a 4850, yours wont bottleneck at stock, i would say that with a minimal overclock, possibly unlocking extra cores, you could definatley have enough juice to power one.

Sorry if i'm not clear, i'm talking about bottlenecking with one of the NEW cards when they are released. The 5870 and 5850,
 
Imo just invest in the card, OC your cpu abit just incase then think about a newer monitor(s).

Edit: Or even get a monitor first, i doubt you'll even need a new GFX with those resolutions.
 
Is your CPU at stock?, 3.1GHz I think it is.

Shouldn't bottleneck it, if it does it will be by a minuscule amount.

People make rather sensationalist claims about bottlenecking, in actual fact it doesn't really make all that big a differance unless your using a GTX295 with a P4 or something.

You should be fine with a 5870 if you are looking at it, you might want to try and have a go at ocerclocking the CPU if you havn't already, it's very easy with the PII Black Edition chips.
 
Thank you for you replies guys. Fenris: Ok that makes me feel much better, i definitely would consider overclocking however i'm only using a stock cooler (However my are temps pretty good, it runs about 29-33C idle, im unsure about full load) and i'm really unsure as how to go about doing it. I've looked at a few guides on the internet but every guide i have seen a completely different BIOS than the one i've got (GA-MA770-UD3 motherboard) so i just get confused and leave it. I also don't want to damage my processor. If i did OC it would only be about another 200MHZ
 
The way I learned was simply be learning what each thing does, voltages, frequencies etc, take the time to find out what you are actualy doing when you change a setting makes it a lot easier.

The good thing about the Black edition PII's is that they have an unlcoked CPU multiplier, my PII x3 for instance is FSB 200 x 14(thats the multiplier) at stock, by simply whacking that up to 16, I get 3.2 GHz, most chips will do this at stock voltages or with a tiny increase.

My advice if you want to give it a go (only do it if you are 100% sure and actualy care about it, don't do it because you think you should) would be to purchase a new cooler, something simply like the Sunbeam Core Contact Freezer and have a whack at it, just stick the multiplier up a notch or 2, boot up and run Prim95 for a few hours and see if it's stable, if needed increase the CPU voltage a bit and so on and so forth, ask questions in the OCing forum as well, there are people much more clued in on the whole thing.

It's very hard to damage processors unless you WAY overdo the OC or put the volatges over their safe limites, the worst you will do witha dodgy OC when just increasing the CPU multiplier is have to reset the BIOS, which is both easy and a complete fix.



Again I can't stress enough there is no real "need" for you to OC, unless you have an interest in learning about it or really really want to do it, don't bother, it will just cause needless concern and cost money you don't need to spend.
 
The way I learned was simply be learning what each thing does, voltages, frequencies etc, take the time to find out what you are actualy doing when you change a setting makes it a lot easier.

The good thing about the Black edition PII's is that they have an unlcoked CPU multiplier, my PII x3 for instance is FSB 200 x 14(thats the multiplier) at stock, by simply whacking that up to 16, I get 3.2 GHz, most chips will do this at stock voltages or with a tiny increase.

My advice if you want to give it a go (only do it if you are 100% sure and actualy care about it, don't do it because you think you should) would be to purchase a new cooler, something simply like the Sunbeam Core Contact Freezer and have a whack at it, just stick the multiplier up a notch or 2, boot up and run Prim95 for a few hours and see if it's stable, if needed increase the CPU voltage a bit and so on and so forth, ask questions in the OCing forum as well, there are people much more clued in on the whole thing.

It's very hard to damage processors unless you WAY overdo the OC or put the volatges over their safe limites, the worst you will do witha dodgy OC when just increasing the CPU multiplier is have to reset the BIOS, which is both easy and a complete fix.



Again I can't stress enough there is no real "need" for you to OC, unless you have an interest in learning about it or really really want to do it, don't bother, it will just cause needless concern and cost money you don't need to spend.

Alright mate cheers for the reply. I'll probably give it a go later just to experiment and see what happens and then leave it at stock until i get one of those shiny new 5870's :D
 
Alright mate cheers for the reply. I'll probably give it a go later just to experiment and see what happens and then leave it at stock until i get one of those shiny new 5870's :D

Although one thing to consider, overclocking won't do much damage.
BUT you need to realise like some don't, the limit of volts and heat your processor can take etc. You may say ill add 5, here 10 here, another 15 in this column, but some settings require maybe only one nudge.

Sorry to scare you if you have but its something you need to be aware of ;)
Also read a lot, become a sponge. Familiarising yourself with your BIOS helps a lot too.
Once you learn to do it you'll realise its not actually that hard.

O and watch your electric bill ;)
 
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