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Question about overclocking x1800xt

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I just upped my core to 650 and mem to 750 using Ati Tool on stock voltage.

Is it ok to run Ati Tray tools simultaneously?

Also in Ati Tool, are you supposed to activate 3D Detection? Or do you leave it deselected. I ran 3D Mark 05 with it selected and deselected and it didn't make much of a dif. Does that mean that the core and mem speeds I set (650 and 750) are running constantly so when a 3D app is started no change is being made?
 
I run Tray Tools and ATI Tool together with no problems. First off though for overclocking the X1800, you need to disable the ATI services (ATI Smart and ATI Hotkey Poller). When you've done that, use ATI Tool to create an overclocked profile. Then go into the settings and enable 3D detection with the default profile for non 3D stuff and select your overclocked profile as the 3D profile... Thats how I do it anyway:)
 
So under the 3d detection settings, for the top one I select the OC'd profile and the bottom one, the default profile?

Is it bad for the card if you run non 3d apps with the OC'd profile? Effectively having it OC'd constantly?
 
sanofi said:
So under the 3d detection settings, for the top one I select the OC'd profile and the bottom one, the default profile?

Yeh, thats how I do it:)

Not sure on whether its bad or not... I've asked before but have never had a reply to it. I wanted to know if it was ok to run it at some super underclocked speed for 2D work and normal for 3D, or if that would damage it making huge jumps when switching modes..
 
Street said:
Yeh, thats how I do it:)

Not sure on whether its bad or not... I've asked before but have never had a reply to it. I wanted to know if it was ok to run it at some super underclocked speed for 2D work and normal for 3D, or if that would damage it making huge jumps when switching modes..

Thats what I'm wondering, if having to overclock and underclock so often hurts the card at all. Also, some 3d apps don't get recognised by the 3d detect but I guess thats what the exceptions option is for.
 
Thats how ATI designed them, so they must be able to withstand it.. The services which you need to disable overclock and underclock the card automatically as far as I understand, its just you need to disable the services to be able to use ATI Tool properly and then have to use ATI Tools 3D detection instead...
 
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Does that also apply if the idle and load temp of the card is still roughly the same after OC'ing?

Also Jokester which would you recommend?
 
I would be inclined to say that if voltages and temps are the same, the effect on lifespan will be minimal if it's stable.

Jokester
 
It's on stock voltage still, temps are virtually the same as before, only pushed it from stock core 600 and mem 700 to core 650 and mem 750 to get about 9300 in 3D Mark 05.

May push it further later.
 
I have the same card and the stock core is 625 and the memory 750. Newer versions of Ati tool detect the 2d setting which is 600/700 and ati tray tools does the same. I use rivatuner which detects the actual 3d clock and unless you can use the find max core/memory theres point in using ati tool.
 
happysappy said:
I have the same card and the stock core is 625 and the memory 750. Newer versions of Ati tool detect the 2d setting which is 600/700 and ati tray tools does the same. I use rivatuner which detects the actual 3d clock and unless you can use the find max core/memory theres point in using ati tool.

I think mine was deff 600/700 stock because when I ran 3D Mark 05 after the OC the score increased from about 8800 to 9300.
 
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