Question regarding LGA775 series

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Hi guys

I'm trying to go back to a previous gen of mbu and cpu for a cheap small pc to keep at a mates house so that when I visit I have something that can do basic operations without the need for lugging my main desktop.

So far I've accumulated a shuttle XPC chassis with a FD32V10 MBU a E6300 CPU OCed to 2.1GHz with 2GB ram, a MSI R6450 GPU and a 128GB SSD.

Currently it is far too slow to be a pleasurable experience for me so I am looking at a Q6600 and varying quad core CPUs as I don't have the spare cash and am curious for what I can get for little money.

My question here is, does anyone know what the maximum ram I can use in the FD32V10 as from conducting some research I have been unable to find any tech sheets? and depending on this how else could I speed up the PC.

I have kept a close eye on the loads of the CPU, Ram and SSD and nothing appears to be significantly saturated to cause the performance to be poor.

Thanks in advanced
James
 
I would say that the cpu is not the only issue.
Can you get the exact specs from the likes of cpu z as to memory speed and motherboard etc.

I ask because I ran the exact same processor stock with a standsrd hdd in a windows server 2012 r2 system and it did ok.

2gb of memory is not that much and most likely slowing things down also.
 
Hi guys

Ok using PC wizard from CPU-Z

the MBU is defo a shuttle FD32V10 with a Intel i945G/GZ chipset, the bios is from phoenix technologies, CPU is a Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 defo a 775 socket. 2gb DDR2 ram, now it does say 333Mhz DDR2-666 and the highest supported freq is 333MHZ so im guessing thats just a random total from the mbu as its 2 sticks.

With regards to the actual usage of the PC I would like to run comfortably:
Office
Visual Studio 12
Spotify
General Internet browsing
Sants Row IV (optionally, if it will at least run my general programs comfortably then I can worry about this)

Hope this helps and cheers for the responses, greatly appreciated :)
 
sastusbulbas said:
I would say that the cpu is not the only issue.
Can you get the exact specs from the likes of cpu z as to memory speed and motherboard etc.

I ask because I ran the exact same processor stock with a standsrd hdd in a windows server 2012 r2 system and it did ok.

2gb of memory is not that much and most likely slowing things down also.
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I think there something else going on. I wonder is the 128GB SSD not working right.

I have a a few machines of that vintage and what really slows them down is the HD. The one I have with a SSD, 2Ghz T7200 Mobile and 3.5GB is grand. Where as the QX6700 with 3.5GB is very slow. But it has a terrible regular HD. It is better when things are loaded. Also have a 1.5C2D laptop with 2GB and its ok for web use.

So I wonder is your SSD being choked by a driver or SATA mode or something.

Otherwise I think you'll pick up a used SFF business PC with i3 for almost the same as you'll spend getting a 775 to useable condition. I'd do that only I have a 7750 in the QX6700 for WOT.
 
Will try another SSD in the system as I've got 2 kicking about and see if that helps, the weird thing is monitoring the CPU, Ram, Storage and network nothing appears to be working at max load and it is still incredibly slow, the ram sits at around 1.5GB so I think i will keep an eye out for some second hand ram and found a few Q6600 around the 30 quid mark.

Cheers for the input though guys :)
 
Someone else has posted a link showing your motherboard does not support a Quad core cpu.

http://global.shuttle.com/products/p...?productId=500

With only two memory slots you are limited to 2x2gb of DDR2 PC8500 as you top memory upgrade.

You have a 250w power supply inside that shuttle, I cannot see where it would take a full ATX size power supply.

2gb of PC-5300 memory is quite far behind even in DDR2 specification. It will be contributing to your slow PC, and is not enough for 64bit operating systems.

Your old E6300 Core2Duo even at a 2.1GHz overclock could be bottlenecked with that 333Mhz memory timing too. It was more suited to DDR2 PC-8500 with its 1066 FSB speed. But your overclock is tied to the FSB and memory with LGA 775, and simply increasing your CPU GHz did not always relate to the best overclock as you have to adjust your memory speed and timing too, PC-5300 gave little to no overhead.

Though you may not get far overclocking even if you could add a Q6600, as I believe 95w TDP is the motherboard maximum, and there looks to be no room for a decent CPU cooler or GPU in that case anyway.

There is no need to try another SSD or HDD, you can simply download HD Tune to benchmark and test your current drive.

Monitoring the CPU memory and ram is only worth doing if your taxing the PC with work.

I can run Windows 10 with a few apps and windows open, and on an old LGA-775 system with 4gb of PC-8500 it will tell me it needs to shut down programs due to insufficient memory. And even with Windows 7 a PC can run around 3.5gb of memory with a handfull of tabs in a browser.

I think your Shuttle PC is simply way too limited for upgrading, and simply not worth investing in.

Can you post some pictures of it's insides?

Do you have a budget?

You quote £30 for a Q6600, but a modern Intel Pentium 1150 cpu starts at £45.
You are looking at more DDR2 but 8gb of DDR3 is £46
An H81 Mini ITX motherboard is £60

Upgrading an old 775 system is fine if you have a top of the line P45 motherboard that overclocks like hell and someone is offering a cheap Q9550/Q9650 and you have 4gb or 8gb of PC-8500.
But even at that, your looking at upgrading items like the case, cooler, GPU, PSU so you can get a motherboard/cpu/memory bundle.

Small form PC's are fine too, but usually the 1st to be consigned to the skip due to being worthless due to no to little upgrade potential. And Micro-ATX is usually far better value.
 
It would be a while before you need to throw a recent sff i3 with hyperthreading and a ssd in the skip. The only thing it will never do is gaming.
 
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