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[JMRoe]

Hi, I was hoping someone could advice me on a few things. I have recently upgraded to 1440p 144hz monitor using x2 GTX 780 TI's overclocked to 1228mhz stable. I have an intel i5 3570k which currently is overclocked to 4.2ghz. My fps are awesome in most games especially bf4 but my CPU does bottleneck the GPU s at times so I ddecided to try overclock to 4.5-6ghz. I have done a lot of reading and have had good results in the past with previous CPU but with this one no hope over 4.2. I have tried fine tuning and volts as high as 1.36v and bsod 30 secs into intel burn. But mostly the system would not go past the BIOS and even completely crashing needing the BIOS reset. After about 20-30 FAILS Of different settings and configuration I was beat and gave up!:'(

It really put me in a ****** mood as had good luck with setting up and overclocking the GPU s and now feel let down by the cpu. I put my system through HELL trying to get an extra 200-300mhz and worry now that it's stressed the rest of my system out with all the BSOD and hard resets I've done. All seams fine back at 4.2ghz now.

What kind of affects can doing as stated above do to a system? Has anyone else had the same trouble and gone to the extremes I have to get a decent stable overclock (many attempt s trying with lots of crashes hard resets)?

As for the CPU i don't know what to do in terms of of leaving it or complete upgrade to gen6. On the whole the 3570k holds up well just at times I see the fps drop hard with the CPU maxed but the GPU at 60-70%. Would a 6600k make all be difference?

Your experiences and knowledge would be most appreciated.

Thanks
Jay

 

[setter]

Tbh for bf4 with sli in particular, it wont matter how high you clock the 3570k. I was in a similair situation with a 3570k at 4.5ghz and sli gtx 670's. Very high cpu usage and not getting high gpu usage. Had to end up moving to a 3770k, which helped an awful lot even when clocked lower at 4.2ghz. Bf4 is one game that really shows a benefit with sli and an i7. Upgrading to a 6600k would just give you the same issue with this game but on a newer cpu.

Constant bsod's and hard resets etc can often lead to a corrupt windows install.

 

[Snookums]

Just get an i7, the hyper threading on them will help get rid of the CPU bottlekneck. IMO it's not worth upgrading and going through the hassle of changing your board so just grab a 3770k.

Unless of course you have the expendable money to get a Haswell-E or a skylake i7.

But on a lower budget sake just get a 3770k, a 6600k or a 4670/90k won't give a performance bump anywhere near worth it.

 

[JMRoe]

Tbh for bf4 with sli in particular, it wont matter how high you clock the 3570k. I was in a similair situation with a 3570k at 4.5ghz and sli gtx 670's. Very high cpu usage and not getting high gpu usage. Had to end up moving to a 3770k, which helped an awful lot even when clocked lower at 4.2ghz. Bf4 is one game that really shows a benefit with sli and an i7. Upgrading to a 6600k would just give you the same issue with this game but on a newer cpu.

Constant bsod's and hard resets etc can often lead to a corrupt windows install.

Thanks a lot for the speedy reply. So you say an i7 3770k would make a better difference? Had a quick look on eBay and not many to choose from and they have held there value alright! Lol. Is it becuz of the hyper threading that it's better?

What I meant by the affects is would the components e.g GPU, PSU, CPU, HDD, sdd have any negative affects from what I described. (an example if you flicked a light on and off many times it would degrade and finally blow) I do care about the OS but that's free to fix.

Regards
Jay

 

[setter]

Thanks a lot for the speedy reply. So you say an i7 3770k would make a better difference? Had a quick look on eBay and not many to choose from and they have held there value alright! Lol. Is it becuz of the hyper threading that it's better?

What I meant by the affects is would the components e.g GPU, PSU, CPU, HDD, sdd have any negative affects from what I described. (an example if you flicked a light on and off many times it would degrade and finally blow) I do care about the OS but that's free to fix.

Regards
Jay

No probs, the i7 certainly did help in my case. Bf3 and 4 are games that ive played quite a lot of so the switch was worth it. Hyperthreading does have a positive impact with multi gpu in theese.

Effects wise, components are pretty robust and as long as you arent putting silly high voltage through things like cpu, ram and gpu you should be fine. All cpu's though when overvolted to any level will degrade over time, but it would likely take quite a while to do so.

 

[Snookums]

Just out of curiosity what PSU do you have? It could potential be you're trying to draw too much power, with 2 OC'ed 780ti's (not the most reserved cards for power) and then overclock your CPU.

I doubt it but it could be a problem.

 

[JMRoe]

Just out of curiosity what PSU do you have? It could potential be you're trying to draw too much power, with 2 OC'ed 780ti's (not the most reserved cards for power) and then overclock your CPU.

I doubt it but it could be a problem.

Hey thanks for the interest. I have a EVGA G2 850w PSU that's brand new installed 2 days ago. Before I upgraded to sli I had a single 760 using G2 750w and had same issues overclocking just didn't go the the extremes I did today, lol. So I don't think it's down to the wattage. After a little look online it seams many 3570k owners hit a wall of 4.4ghz no matter the voltage so I believe I really lost the silcon lottery with 4.2ghz. BUT I am open to new suggestion as I don't understand all the setting and how they work in my BIOS so possible I have missed something.

My motherboard is a MSI Z77a GD55.

 

[Snookums]

I would imagine you might struggle running 2 overclocked 780tis and an overclocked CPU on an 850w PSU even with how good the G2 is, I might be wrong though.

But that aside if you've had this issue before even on a single card its likely you've just got a poor clocker so there isn't much you can do about it.

As I said before an i7 would do you wonders. Especailly in bf4 with SLI

 

[JMRoe]

No probs, the i7 certainly did help in my case. Bf3 and 4 are games that ive played quite a lot of so the switch was worth it. Hyperthreading does have a positive impact with multi gpu in theese.

Effects wise, components are pretty robust and as long as you arent putting silly high voltage through things like cpu, ram and gpu you should be fine. All cpu's though when overvolted to any level will degrade over time, but it would likely take quite a while to do so.

So 3770k it is then! Hope to pick one up for under £200. I play a lot of bf4 and bf3 but have no prob of keeping in the limiter on bf3 and to be honest I never see any lower than 90fps in bf4 but when u get the 144hz bug its hard not to keep to it.

Thanks for the info, my main concern was that I had just abussed and tortured the HELL out my new system for nothing and just didn't know the possible effects on all the inner workings of each component.

Muchly appreciated

 

[Snookums]

You have no reason to worry about your system, you've got nice expensive parts all good quality so they can take even more of a beating than your usual budget and mainstream pre builts.

Just as long as you don't give it too many volts it'll be fine

 

[JMRoe]

I would imagine you might struggle running 2 overclocked 780tis and an overclocked CPU on an 850w PSU even with how good the G2 is, I might be wrong though.

But that aside if you've had this issue before even on a single card its likely you've just got a poor clocker so there isn't much you can do about it.

As I said before an i7 would do you wonders. Especailly in bf4 with SLI

I did my homework b4 buying the PSU and with my CPU oc to 1.36v and GPUs at ,1.212v and rest of my system maxed out would pull under 700w. So think it should be k. Just got a lemon of a CPU I think. Gonna take all your advice and buy i7.

Thanks a lot