Question: Water Cooling

Realist · 28 Dec 2007 at 16:56

Guys,

Running a Q6600 and a Freezer Pro 7.

What kit would you recommend if I converted and become a water baby?

Now I know nowt about water and whats needed so please if possible any chance of a pre-made kit or bits that go together like bread and butter.

Regards.

PS,

Make it cheap as possible, I work for a living you know

Happy new year.

PPS,

Also, would I need to change my case?

gary996 · 28 Dec 2007 at 19:09

As said b4 on other post get the Swiftech kit http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=WC-014-SW&groupid=701&catid=193&subcat=1038
Its about the best you can get without going custom

waso_dude · 28 Dec 2007 at 19:14

imho if you want a simple decent one to get you into it get this:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=WC-028-SW&groupid=701&catid=193&subcat=1038

but the 120.2 rad version that is due out soon. Its really really simple to setup then.

Realist · 28 Dec 2007 at 19:29

So if I use the Swiftech H20 120 Compact Kit, would I need anything else?

paradigm · 28 Dec 2007 at 19:49

Realist said:
So if I use the Swiftech H20 120 Compact Kit, would I need anything else?

Nope, keeps mine idling at 27ºc

WJA96 · 28 Dec 2007 at 19:53

paradigm said:
Nope, keeps mine idling at 27ºc

Really? - a 3.8GHz Q6600 idling @ 27C, cooled by a single 120mm radiator? That's very, very special. What's it like after a couple of hours under 4 threads of prime?

PinkFloyd · 28 Dec 2007 at 20:00

Yeh I find that hard to believe either, unless you live in the Arctic :/

gurusan · 28 Dec 2007 at 20:00

at idle speedstep would put the quad to 2.5ghz....so 27c could be possible.

PinkFloyd · 28 Dec 2007 at 20:04

True, but I would have expected speedstep and the like to have been turned off to get a stable 3.8GHz

WJA96 · 28 Dec 2007 at 20:05

gurusan said:
at idle speedstep would put the quad to 2.5ghz....so 27c could be possible.

I'm not saying it's not possible - but have you seen a 3.8GHz overclock that's stable with C1E/TM1&TM2/Speedstep turned on?

I'm running 1.45V (measured with a multi-meter) to get 3.82GHz with one of the best Quad-core blocks around, a high flow pump and a PA120.3 and mine idles at 35C and loads at 50-55C in an 18C room.

The block on that Swiftech is based on the original Apogee GT block (not the GTX) and as far as I'm aware isn't bowed at all, so why would it suddenly be super-effective with a Quad?

Realist · 28 Dec 2007 at 20:05

Id be interested in that setup. But if needs be could it be expanded for anything that may crop up in the future.

Also would I need to change my case?

gurusan · 28 Dec 2007 at 20:06

I've never turned speedstep off, but then again I've never had a stable clock above 3.6ghz

...but also I don't really understand how speedstep can make an unstable overclock.

PinkFloyd · 28 Dec 2007 at 20:07

Shouldn't need to change case, so long as you have 120mm fan mounts I can't think of any case that wouldn't fit the swiftech all in one kit.

Realist · 28 Dec 2007 at 20:13

Dont know if Im allowed to post this link here, its not a compeditor but a review, if its against the rules can a mod remove the link please.

I found this review via Google: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=341&num=1

Is that the kit?

PinkFloyd · 28 Dec 2007 at 20:14

Yeh thats the one.

WJA96 · 28 Dec 2007 at 20:17

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=WC-014-SW&groupid=701&catid=193&subcat=1038 is the kit you linked to, with a double 120mm fan.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=WC-028-SW&groupid=701&catid=193&subcat=1038 is the simpler version, that seems to be performing very well for Paradigm. There is a double 120mm version available elsewhere.

WJA96 · 28 Dec 2007 at 20:20

gurusan said:
...but also I don't really understand how speedstep can make an unstable overclock.

OK - lets say your CPU needs 1.45V to be stable under load. Speedstep comes along and cuts that to 1.15V and drops the FSB. When the load cuts back in, how quick is the extra voltage applied? Not fast enough usually, hence the instability.

Realist · 28 Dec 2007 at 20:20

Been digging round and found this as well: Thermaltake CL-W0076 Bigwater 745 Liquid Cooler kit.

Priced ok but not posting a link cos it might be against the rules.

Any ideas on that concidering Thermaltake supposed to be good?

Found a link from the peeps who make it: http://www.thermaltake.com/product/Liguid/DIY/cl-w0076/cl-w0076.asp

paradigm · 28 Dec 2007 at 20:21

Speedstep (and C1E) is most definately OFF, I'm running orthos at the moment, only had the system installed for a matter of hours, so am unsure as to wether the temps will settle/bed in any further.

Secondly, its not at 3.8GHz at the moment (that was on vapochill), I really should get my sig updated. Its at 3.4GHz currently, with 1.37v.

paradigm · 28 Dec 2007 at 21:01

Well, orthos is still running, but an hour of 95-100% load has seen a "high" of 46ºc, but its averaged at 43ºc, going to leave it running for the next 3 hours.