Quick Q. Do Civic Type R's have traction control?

Virdi · 21 Mar 2007 at 07:59

Morning all,

Just a quick question please.... Do Civic Type R's have traction control...?

.... I'm not referring to the new shape model..

Bobbler · 21 Mar 2007 at 08:15

Nope, older ones dont AFAIK

Dup · 21 Mar 2007 at 08:20

No, only ABS and EBD.

Virdi · 21 Mar 2007 at 08:39

EBD?? is that a form of Traction Control?

Hawk Tuah · 21 Mar 2007 at 08:41

Electronic brake distribution I think.

Virdi · 21 Mar 2007 at 08:44

Bug One said:
Electronic brake distribution I think.

ahhh! Thanks

mast3r · 21 Mar 2007 at 09:00

I was looking to buy an 07 type R but i was indded put off due to lack of Traction Control, the guy did tell me you can have it added as an extra but he did seem a little unsure, and i cant see how the hell it can be added aftermarket !

PS. Bug, your lass always attracts my eye! lol

Gibbo · 21 Mar 2007 at 09:08

Hi there

Why on earth would you need traction control on a Civic Type R?

It can hardly spin the wheels as it is if you have decent tyres on the car. So fail to see why you would want traction control on what is a car with low torque as its mainly torque that causes traction to be lost. Whatever happened to using your right foot as traction control anyway.

Really don't let the lack of traction control put you off from buying a Civic-Type R as they are great chuckable car and really don't need a TC system.

Dup · 21 Mar 2007 at 09:21

After all the hell of trying to find a decent estate for carrying the dogs, I've decided I'd prefer something I acutally wanted which I could use to carry the dogs on the weeky occasion that I do. I'll just need to be careful of how I do it.

Hence I'm looking into getting an EP3 Type-R myself, ticks all the boxes for me. Just need to confirm my budget and find the car.

Bobbler · 21 Mar 2007 at 09:32

Dup said:
After all the hell of trying to find a decent estate for carrying the dogs, I've decided I'd prefer something I acutally wanted which I could use to carry the dogs on the weeky occasion that I do. I'll just need to be careful of how I do it.

Hence I'm looking into getting an EP3 Type-R myself, ticks all the boxes for me. Just need to confirm my budget and find the car.

Nah, EK9 is what you want

Throw them doggies around the back on every corner LOL

Simon · 21 Mar 2007 at 09:39

Gibbo said:
It can hardly spin the wheels as it is if you have decent tyres on the car. So fail to see why you would want traction control on what is a car with low torque as its mainly torque that causes traction to be lost. Whatever happened to using your right foot as traction control anyway.

Really don't let the lack of traction control put you off from buying a Civic-Type R as they are great chuckable car and really don't need a TC system.

In the wet wheelspin is quite bad with the Civic type Rs, especially on the OEM Bridgestones.

Wheel torque is what breaks traction....

Dup · 21 Mar 2007 at 11:07

Bobbler said:
Nah, EK9 is what you want Throw them doggies around the back on every corner LOL

EK9 are just as expensive though! I can't justify the money for the age of car.

^^Gord^^ · 21 Mar 2007 at 11:25

Simon said:
In the wet wheelspin is quite bad with the Civic type Rs, especially on the OEM Bridgestones.

Wheel torque is what breaks traction....

I don't struggle in the wet, it's cold temps that cause me problems. Temps under about 5c and the type compound doesn't grip as well as it does above and making gaps in traffic can be fun!

merlin · 21 Mar 2007 at 11:39

Engine in the CTR is light, OE tyres are like plastic, not a problem to spin the wheels in 3rd gear if the conditions are poor and tyres cold.

Virdi · 21 Mar 2007 at 11:41

I'm sure there was someone on here a while back that claimed he was wheel spinning in 4th Gear!!! :rolleyes:

merlin · 21 Mar 2007 at 11:43

Virdi said:
I'm sure there was someone on here a while back that claimed he was wheel spinning in 4th Gear!!!

That was me, in a DC5, again in poor conditions and on RE040's.

Eidolon said his CTR would spin the wheels in poor conditions on cold tyres in 3rd and I have no problem believing that whatsoever, so ease off with the rolleyes.

Virdi · 21 Mar 2007 at 12:00

merlin said:
That was me, in a DC5, again in poor conditions and on RE040's.

Eidolon said his CTR would spin the wheels in poor conditions on cold tyres in 3rd and I have no problem believing that whatsoever, so ease off with the rolleyes.

lol

Pug · 21 Mar 2007 at 12:35

Gibbo said:
Hi there

Why on earth would you need traction control on a Civic Type R?

It can hardly spin the wheels as it is if you have decent tyres on the car. So fail to see why you would want traction control on what is a car with low torque as its mainly torque that causes traction to be lost. Whatever happened to using your right foot as traction control anyway.

tbh you dont "need" traction control, but as its FWD i'd seriously reccomend it unless you want to be lighting up everytime you pull away.

My celica has TC and stability control. TC can be disabled, and it is when i want to have a grin, but in anything other than bone dry and non-agressive driving, it can become a bit frustrating wheel spinning.

Wheels light up when accelerating out of hard corners, roundabouts, anytime the wheels go lighter and you're on the cam profile change.

As soon as a layer of grease settles, forward progress becomes "tiresome" when you're not in a racing mood without it. Pretty surprised it doesnt have it tho.

All this with £115 worth of rubber at each corner.

Stonedofmoo · 21 Mar 2007 at 12:40

I can spin the wheels on my 306 in 5th.. my tyres are made from Vaseline

Durzel · 21 Mar 2007 at 12:42

TC is easy to add, Racelogic do the defacto system really.

Had a TCS on my old Civic Type-R and it was a godsend in wet/cold conditions. Anyone who says a CTR won't spin the wheels in anything other than bone dry & warm conditions hasn't driven one.

I know you can control your right foot (lol) but having TC makes it so you don't lose anything at all through wheelspin. Definite benefit on the highly-strung FWD CTR.