Quick question on loop

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Guys, is this watercooling loop idea viable?

I'm mainly concerned on the fact that there is a FrozenQ Liquid V fusion reservoir.

Someone has mentioned in my build log thread, that by having two reservoirs, I might have problems with it flooding?

I just want to be safe before I do anything else.

Thanks

Min

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Don't quite know what they mean by flooding, the res should be designed to deal with the pressure from the first pump (check the specs to be sure but with the second pump drawing out water, I dont see a prob unless it fails and the res cant take it). Although you dont need the res for the second pump as the first will feed it fine, is there any particualr reason for wanting it that way?


Edit: Nvm I misread your plan, thought that was a second pump at the bottom after seeing the second res. I suspect they meant the res taking the first hit from the pump? Again if designed/manufactured right it shouldn't casue any prob but the second res is def still superflous.
 
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This is what has been said by another member.

And youre gonna have a big problem with having 2 reservoirs. The only way it will work is to put the output of the FrozenQ above the input of the bay res. Otherwise you wont have any flow and the FrozenQ will flood. And I dont think theres enough space for the FrozenQ because it will interfere with the rad and fans on the top.

But I'm thinking that the FrozenQ should just act as if there was any other tubing or radiator instead of it.

Just purely for aesthetics coolant going in the top and out the bottom.
 
Why not just go pump + top directly underneath the cylinder res?

Either way by that drawing I can't see how it would flood, especially as the cylinder res is lower in the loop and it isn't open ended it would just act like a block.
 
It's more for aesthetics, I thought it would be nice to hide the pump away in the drive bay behind the main reservoir.
 
Min said:
This is what has been said by another member.

And youre gonna have a big problem with having 2 reservoirs. The only way it will work is to put the output of the FrozenQ above the input of the bay res. Otherwise you wont have any flow and the FrozenQ will flood. And I dont think theres enough space for the FrozenQ because it will interfere with the rad and fans on the top.

But I'm thinking that the FrozenQ should just act as if there was any other tubing or radiator instead of it.

Just purely for aesthetics coolant going in the top and out the bottom.
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I see, well im not sure on the design of the frozenQ, so maybe he knows something I dont, but I dont off the top of my head see why it would be a prob either. WHat pump is it?


edit: although I do agree it will affect flow. Doubt it will stop it as he likely exaggaratingly suggests but not helpfull to it, which is why he suggested having it before the pump.
 
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You don't want to be pumping straight into a res, it will kill flow.

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TBH just remove the FrozenQ from the plans, the loop will function much better, your not gaining anything from it anyway its just going to look cool.
 
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Well it's a D5 pump, I'm hoping to be able to run it at speed 3.

Ubersonic, so do you recommend going the other way round?
 
I would get rid of it personally. Stick with one or the other.

Regular tubing/radiator channels are different as there is a boundar layer and the innerchanne flows along with less impediment. In that setup part of the tube res acts as a wall with a hole and you rely on water pressure buildup that pushes against all surfaces to get water out.
 
This is how my rig looks at the moment which I'm hoping to watercool
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And this is the look I'm going for, or more like copying (Sorry, for ripping off someone's work, but it looks like the person has invested a lot of care and effort into designing this rig, and I love the look of it. I guess there wasn't much for me to change to the look of this as this was exactly the kind of design I had my idea on in the first place)
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And this is my shopping list of parts for the watercooling, to give you better idea of what parts I'm working with here.

1x Corsair AX850 Individually Braided Modular Cables in Red (to give that extra red to the colour when plugged into the MoBo and the GPU and coming out the PSU)
1x XSPC 5.25" D5 Dual Bay Reservoir and Pump Combo
1x XSPC RayStorm CPU Waterblock
1x XSPC Razor GTX670 Waterblock
1x XSPC Raxor GTX670 Backplate
1x XSPC EX 240mm Radiator
1x XSPC EX 360mm Xflow Radiator
1x FrozenQ Liquid Fusion V Red Helix
10x XSPC Compression Fitting (Black Nickel)
2x 90 degrees compression fitting (Black Nickel)
3m Primochill Primoflex Red Tubing (3/8 ID - 5/8 OD)
2x Xigmatek Crystal Fan 140mm White LED (For the rear exhaust and one on the HDD cage which will be on low but more for the lighting)
2x Xigmatek Crystal Fan 140mm RedLED (For the 2 intake fans at the front)
5x Xigmatek Crystal Fan 120mm White LED (3 push fans for 360 rad up top & 2 for the pull fans for 240 radiators down bottom)
3x Xigmatek Crystal Fan 120mm Red LED (3 pull fans for the 260 rad up top running in push/pull config)
1x NZXT Sentry Mix 6 Channel Fan Controller
1x Phoya Thermal Paste Cleaner
1x Arctic Cooling MX4 Thermal Paste
Couple of fansplitters to plug into the fan controller
1x 5L distilled water (From Halfords)
1x Mayhems XT-1 Concentrate (Biocide and Anti-corosive)
3x Red LED bulb (1 for the Bay Reservoir up front, one for the CPU block, one for the GPU block)

So far what I have in my rig is,

Case: NZXT Switch 810 Matte Black
CPU: Intel i5 3570k
Mobo: Asus Maximus V formula
GPU: Asus GTX 670 DCII (Non top version, possibly adding another card in SLI in the future)
RAM: 16gb Corsair Vengeance 1600mhz in red (4 x 4gb)
PSU: Corsair AX850
SSD: Intel 520 series 120gb (I have my o/s and games on this one)
HDD: WD Caviar Black 1TB (For storage of photos, music etc)
DVD: LG GH24NS90.AUAR50B 24x Super Multi Internal DVD Rewriter
O/S: Microsoft Windows 8
Keyboard: Steelseries 6Gv2
Mouse: Steelseries Sensei

Thanks for all the input and help guys :)

Min x
 
Have you considered a male-male nipple and screwing the pump to the res, that ways you keep the cylinder res in sight, and the pump doesnt take up floor space. Will require a redisgn of the layout/order perhaps and it might not be aesthetically to your liking.

Also it looks like that guy has a inner tube in the cylinder res channelling the flow straight to the outlet.
 
Eddyr,

The inner tube in the res is the Cathode light strip that comes with the reservoir.

Sorry can you explain to me what you have just advised? Sorry I'm a n00b at this and that has gone straight over my head.
 
I've been assuming those helical coils inside are just aesthetic too, so i'l just check, do those channel flow from inlet to outlet? (I expect not)
 
No, the Helix is just there for show, the channel flows outside of those inside the tube res.

As if the helix or the cathode strip wasn't there.
 
That will work better, but I still think you would be best off just going with the original plan and not having the FrozenQ, that way you could even use the extra space to make the bottom rad thicker if you so wish. The only thing its going to do is look cool and to be honest you could just fit a cathode case light to do that.

To use a crude analogy, pumping into a second reservoir part way through the loop is like peeing into the toilet, it just takes all the pressure/force out of the stream.

NB: If you could fit the pump between the FrozenQ and the bottom rad so its pumping into the rad that would solve everything.
 
I could be completely wrong here (and correct me if so), but although they're called "pumps" it's not what they just do - they suck too so I don't personally see a flow problem. Once the loop is closed off and you start pushing one end of water - the other is gonna push back (the return to the res).

That said it probably would impact flow, but not enough to mean anything? Main problem would be air in the 2nd res, get rid of that and really it'll just act like a big block :)

Just my thoughts though, not tested! (maybe I will...)
 
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