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Quick Question Regarding nVidia's Next Gen...
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Even if it has been announced what difference would it make?
I mean Fermi was 6 months late...
My guess would be when TSMC transition onto 28nm, which will probably be late 2011 or early 2012 Nvidia will be trying to release a new generation.
I mean Fermi was 6 months late...
My guess would be when TSMC transition onto 28nm, which will probably be late 2011 or early 2012 Nvidia will be trying to release a new generation.
Was just wondering with regards to the resale value of the 480s really. If they've only got a refresh coming, and the 6970 rumoured to be only slightly better than the 480 then it should hold its value pretty well I imagine. I remember the 285s selling for around £300 up until the release of Fermi! lol Impossible to predict what will happen this time though I know.
Mid 2012 would suit me fine!
Mid 2012 would suit me fine!
Was just wondering with regards to the resale value of the 480s really. If they've only got a refresh coming, and the 6970 rumoured to be only slightly better than the 480 then it should hold its value pretty well I imagine. I remember the 285s selling for around £300 up until the release of Fermi! lol Impossible to predict what will happen this time though I know.
Mid 2012 would suit me fine!
I think with 2 480s you wont have to buy a new card/cards for a long time
I think with 2 480s you wont have to buy a new card/cards for a long time
Performance-wise they're great...I just don't want their value depreciating too steeply!
You have 480 SLI & yet you have next gen on your mind..shakes head.
The resale aspect i can understand but its not something i ever think/worry about.
It's simply wisdom from being in this position before many times. Sell up before the next gen comes and either get the new one or repurchase the old one. Been doing for years and it means you actually pay a lot less in addition to always having newer hardware.
If you buy only once every few years then by the time you come to sell on your old stuff is practically worthless. Sell and buy regularly and you see relatively little price difference between what you paid and what you receive.
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It's not that, although I certainly do like it!
As stated in my previous post, it's more about a balance of staying relatively up-to-date and never having to spend so much in one go.
Bare in mind that Fermi was not actually 6 months late and nVidia pulled off a miracle getting working production silicon in the time they had, they may be able to deliver on time.
To head off the inevitable responses... nVidia should have delivered a new GPU before April 09 GT212 was late and finally aborted, it was nVidia that was late not Fermi as such. The combination of ATI beating them to the DX11 punch and the 40nm issues put them off schedule.
To head off the inevitable responses... nVidia should have delivered a new GPU before April 09 GT212 was late and finally aborted, it was nVidia that was late not Fermi as such. The combination of ATI beating them to the DX11 punch and the 40nm issues put them off schedule.
Yes it is worthless by the time i sell but i don't care as i have had a more stable platform for longer & my friends get cheap but capable upgrades.
I'm sure when they move from 3870-CF to a 5970x2 4GB that they will be pleased as always.
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Theres been no tape out of anything new for Nvidia, meaning any refresh high end part is at least 4 months away from release IF something taped out basically today. Theres entirely no sign of that yet or any time soon. If you were generous and said they got something taped out before xmas AND it didn't need a respin, you're talking about them maybe getting stuff to retail right as they can start testing on 28nm and maybe sending a 28nm to tape out, which again would be 4-5 months from launch if theres no respin required.
IE any refresh now would end up being a massively expensive R&D project that would end up being replaced, or should I say, intending to be replaced by a 2billion dollar R&D Kepler in Q3 next year only a few months later.
Its odds on theres no Nvidia refresh, if Kepler's on time, Q3/Q4 next year, if needs a couple respins like Fermi, 285gtx, 280gtx did, then you're looking at similar to Fermi delays to the launch.
As the op said, if you buy a 480gtx, wait 2 years to sell it you've bought something circa £400, and selling it likely for under £100, likely a decent way under £100. £300 loss, if you sell a month before the new cards at £200-250, and put the extra cash towards the new card at £300-350, you end up paying £100 to upgrade to the latest gen.
People who buy a single card every 3 years tend to spend a LOT more than people who replace their cards every gen by selling just before the new stuff launches.
In this situation the 6 series is likely to do a decent amount of damage to Nvidia 2nd hand prices even without a new Nvidia gen. The 480gtx will be a good card still and Nvidia will still price it probably £300 or above, but second hand not many people will buy a £250 480gtx over a £125-150 5850.
IE any refresh now would end up being a massively expensive R&D project that would end up being replaced, or should I say, intending to be replaced by a 2billion dollar R&D Kepler in Q3 next year only a few months later.
Its odds on theres no Nvidia refresh, if Kepler's on time, Q3/Q4 next year, if needs a couple respins like Fermi, 285gtx, 280gtx did, then you're looking at similar to Fermi delays to the launch.
As the op said, if you buy a 480gtx, wait 2 years to sell it you've bought something circa £400, and selling it likely for under £100, likely a decent way under £100. £300 loss, if you sell a month before the new cards at £200-250, and put the extra cash towards the new card at £300-350, you end up paying £100 to upgrade to the latest gen.
People who buy a single card every 3 years tend to spend a LOT more than people who replace their cards every gen by selling just before the new stuff launches.
In this situation the 6 series is likely to do a decent amount of damage to Nvidia 2nd hand prices even without a new Nvidia gen. The 480gtx will be a good card still and Nvidia will still price it probably £300 or above, but second hand not many people will buy a £250 480gtx over a £125-150 5850.
Really a need for shaking your head then mate?
It's very admirable of you to be so charitable with your friends but that's not for everyone. Heck, I don't even have any mates into PC gaming!
It's not that, although I certainly do like it!
As stated in my previous post, it's more about a balance of staying relatively up-to-date and never having to spend so much in one go.
You like nice cars. I know a great dealership.
You like nice cars. I know a great dealership.
Not got the money for the kind of car I would really like.
Got a Mondeo doing me just fine though.
Really a need for shaking your head then mate?
It's very admirable of you to be so charitable with your friends but that's not for everyone. Heck, I don't even have any mates into PC gaming!
Been a charitable person all my life & as you say its not for everyone.