Quiet ALC Setup

Andromeda1983

Andromeda1983

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My current cooler is dumping all the heat inside my case so I have decided to improve the cooling situation for my CPU. Now I know one of the benefits of an ALC is that the heat will get dumped outside of the case so I have decided to go that route however I need some suggestions on what to get.

My cooling needs are mostly just for gaming but I need to have the cooler be as quiet as possible as I have hypersensitive hearing. So any suggestions on which ALC and fan setup I should look to get, I will be running at stock. My specs are:

4790K Stock No OC
Asus Strix 1080
Z97-AR Motherboard
16GB 2400mhz DDR3
Fractal R4
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Which ALC and Fan recommendations would be fantastic...
 
Good AIOs with copper radiators and good pump flowrates are
Swiftech H140 / H220 / H240 / H320 X & H220 / H240 / H320 X2 & Prodigy (Swiftech H320 X2 Prodigy is = ~0.89 GPM)
EK-XLC Predator 140 to 360 line. (EK Predator 240 loop flowrate = ~0.6 GPM)
These flowrates are middle to low side of what most custom H2O component pump flowrates are.​

Mid-level AIO/CLC with copper radiators and okay pump flowrates are
(AIO because of fill plug in pump, otherwise they are CLC)
Alphacool Eisbaer (70l/h (0.3082 GPM American))
Fractal Design Kelvin
be quiet! Silent Loop

Alphacool pump used in be quiet! Silent Loop is slightly modified version of Fractal Design Kelvin (0.317 GPM / 72 L/h); which is a modified (no reservoir) Eisbaer pump (0.308 GPM / 70 L/h); which is based on the Alphacool DC-LT Ceramic Ultra Low Noise pump (31.7 GPM /72 L/h).​

CLC
H100i open flow = ~ 0.11 GPM (25 L/h). Keep in mind this is not loop flow, but free flow. This is typical Asetek pump performance
http://www.overclock.net/t/1371863/corsair-h100i-max-flow-rate-test-video-result/0_20

Edit: I've heard newer CLC pump flow 2.0GPM (American) but have not seen any data to verify​

The Aisbaer pump is rated 70l/h (0.3082 GPM American)
https://www.inet.se/files/pdf/6912223_0.pdf

Thermalbench tested the Eisbaer 240 and recorded 0.3 GPM (67 L/h), within margin of error. ;)
http://thermalbench.com/2016/06/27/alphacool-eisbaer-240-cpu-cooler/5/

While Eisbaer has 2x more flow than CLCs do, dedicated AIOs flow 2-3X more than Eisbaer pumps .. that is 4-6x as much as CLCs flow, but still less then custom loops flow.
 
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Personally, I'd only really be looking at the EKWB Predator range... best quality components, some of the quietest fans and also a quiet top quality pump. You can't really go wrong with one of these. Have you ruled out going with a custom loop?

I've never heard of the term ALC before... as far as I'm aware it's either AIO (all-in-one) or CLC (closed loop cooler), same thing basically.
 
FYI:
ALC is "Advanced Liquid Cooling" :rolleyes:
I think it's a name CoolIT coined back in like 2010-ish.
Didn't seem to go anywhere and I haven't seen the term used in years.
Coolit is stronger in asian countries, so maybe they are still doing them over there.
 
I'm sure I read somewhere the other day that flow rate is not that important for temps. I'm sure it was on extreme rigs radiator review. Some had basically said that they tested different flow rates and it didn't effect temps much. Basically as long as it can flow the coolant around the loop, it being lower or slower actually means the fluid spends a bit more time in the rad where it is being cooled.

Obviously a higher flow rate helps when you have muliple restictions in your loop but in terms of AIO's/CLC, they only have one or two small components. Rad and block.
 
Doobedoo said:
I'm sure I read somewhere the other day that flow rate is not that important for temps. I'm sure it was on extreme rigs radiator review. Some had basically said that they tested different flow rates and it didn't effect temps much. Basically as long as it can flow the coolant around the loop, it being lower or slower actually means the fluid spends a bit more time in the rad where it is being cooled.

Obviously a higher flow rate helps when you have muliple restictions in your loop but in terms of AIO's/CLC, they only have one or two small components. Rad and block.
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It's all ralative. What was their lowest flow rate?
Depends on how low their flow rate goes.
I can't think of a decent component pump that flows less than 0.4GPM at idle. CLCs flow 0.11-0.22GPM at maximum speed. :D
 
Not sure I came across it but just glossed over it, if I can find it I'll post it up.

We know CLC are made of inferior products hence the existence of the predator, but in their case it does what it's intended to do at a set budget. They have a place in the market for those who don't want to go down the custom loop route, we all know custom loops can do a better job of it but have added expense and maintenance.
 
Doobedoo said:
Not sure I came across it but just glossed over it, if I can find it I'll post it up.

We know CLC are made of inferior products hence the existence of the predator, but in their case it does what it's intended to do at a set budget. They have a place in the market for those who don't want to go down the custom loop route, we all know custom loops can do a better job of it but have added expense and maintenance.
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You need to look at the facts and quite arguing semantics and talking about things not even part of this discussion.

I'm not talking about custom loops. I'm talking about a better quality CLC or AIO. Granted, dedicated AIOs are more expensive, but better quality CLCs are only marginally more, not no replacement fans and are quiet running.

The be quiet! is a much better quality product than the Corair for almost the same price. Copper radiator versus aluminum. quality quiet fans instead of noisy marginal fans, and a quieter running pump that flows more coolant.

H115i all aluminum radiator with noisy fans and low flow pump is £124.99
be quiet! Silent Loop copper radiator, quiet fans & higher flwo pump is £129.95

H105 aluminum and loud fans is £105.99
Silent Loop copper and quiet is £114.95
 
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