Quotation Problem

Walkerie · 3 Apr 2011 at 23:37

Hi, sorry to bother you all with this kind of question.

Currently working my way through a 6k report, in regards to quoting source and ive come across a problem.

For instance (only an example)

Im reading book 12345, by Dave.

In Dave's book he quotes somebody else, now if i wish to use this quote aswell, do i need to reference daves book or find the original quote in the book of the guy hes quoting and dig out the page number etc and go from there?

Thanks in advance.

Fritzy · 3 Apr 2011 at 23:42

You would need to find the original quote and reference it properly, I believe. I know it's an absolute pain, but I'm pretty sure that's the proper way to do it to avoid issues of plagiarism.

SpaghettiOs · 3 Apr 2011 at 23:44

It depends on which style guide you're following how you would reference it, but I would always footnote it, "X, quoted in Dave, 12345....".

This is if it is a direct quotation of another source. If its merely using their argument or ideas but not a word for word citation then this shouldn't be necessary, but you may want to mention it in footnotes.

Walkerie · 3 Apr 2011 at 23:52

gamer_boy said:
It depends on which style guide you're following how you would reference it, but I would always footnote it, "X, quoted in Dave, 12345....".

This is if it is a direct quotation of another source. If its merely using their argument or ideas but not a word for word citation then this shouldn't be necessary, but you may want to mention it in footnotes.

Ive found book its supposedly in, however the author of this book stipulates pg 68-75. So he must have referenced a few pieces of his work so looks like im stuck.

Fritzy said:
You would need to find the original quote and reference it properly, I believe. I know it's an absolute pain, but I'm pretty sure that's the proper way to do it to avoid issues of plagiarism.

What about if ive no access to the works? Universities cant expect us to have access to every text surely?

Castiel · 3 Apr 2011 at 23:57

Just reference your source and credit the original author of the quote.

EDIT: Like gamer boy explains below...

SpaghettiOs · 3 Apr 2011 at 23:58

I take it then that he uses several quotations from this other book? If so, I would still cite it as I said. Assuming this other author's name was Bob, I would cite the reference, "Bob, quoted in Dave, 12345 (Publication Details), p. [Page reference in Dave's book]".

Hope that makes some sense.

Walkerie · 4 Apr 2011 at 00:01

Thanks gamer, going with this for in text quotation.

(Porter, 2001) quoted by (Chaffey et al, 2009, pg.201)

Walkerie · 7 Apr 2011 at 02:08

Have searched the internet for a while now, any advice on how to reference a paraphrased bulleted list?

semi-pro waster · 7 Apr 2011 at 07:46

WalkeruK said:
Thanks gamer, going with this for in text quotation.

(Porter, 2001) quoted by (Chaffey et al, 2009, pg.201)

Not Porter as in he of the Diamond fame?

WalkeruK said:
Have searched the internet for a while now, any advice on how to reference a paraphrased bulleted list?

Is it in a book? If so then I'd probably reference it much as any other reference work. If it's on a handout that your lecturer gave you (for instance) then I was always told it didn't need referenced specifically.

Walkerie · 7 Apr 2011 at 14:13

Hes a marketer thats all I know about him.

Surely i cant reference it like this, is there a way to reference the whole part >?

1. blah blah (whoever, 2008)
2. blah blah (whoever, 2008)
3.blah blah (whoever, 2008)

Ahleckz · 7 Apr 2011 at 14:46

Bring the quoted bit in a bit, and at the bottom just add the reference. Easy.

"Blah blah blah blah:

One
Two
Three

(Ahleckz:2011)

blah blah"

Then just reference it as normal in your bibliography.

Walkerie · 8 Apr 2011 at 00:54

Thanks mate!

Walkerie · 24 Apr 2011 at 21:57

One last one, now this one has really got me stumped, im working from a journal ive found, however the journal has multiple sections from differing authors, if one of the authors paraphrases a section of one of the latter authors how would i go about referencing that?

vicisthebest · 24 Apr 2011 at 22:25

WalkeruK said:
One last one, now this one has really got me stumped, im working from a journal ive found, however the journal has multiple sections from differing authors, if one of the authors paraphrases a section of one of the latter authors how would i go about referencing that?

Don't know if your uni has one of these but my uni gave us this:

http://skillsforlearning.leedsmet.ac.uk/Quote_Unquote.pdf

Pretty much gave us every instance that we would need and how to reference it, and what to put in your bibliography too.

What you need MAY be on page 15...?