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R5 1600 with GTX1070. Do I upgrade to 3600, 3700X or stick ?

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I'm a fairly casual gamer (finished FC5 a few months ago and am slowly working towards the end of MGS 5, Witcher 3 might be next game to deal with).

My monitor is 1440P G-Sync. Games play pretty well at pretty much maxed settings. I like my PC to be fast and responsive when I'm not gaming, being a bit impatient I like Windows to boot quickly and apps to open fast.

I can afford to buy pretty much the fastest PC possible, but that's because I always look for value for money when parting with cash on anything.

Will spending £200 - 320 on a CPU upgrade make much difference ?
 
Zen 2 is super responsive in windows, the 3600 is way snappier than my i5 8400 and 2400G, in fact I was blown away by how faster the desktop experience is. For your usage I would go with the 3600, way better gamer than the 1600.

Thanks. I'm thinking that Zen 2 will provide a noticeable overall improvement, so a 3600 is the VFM option. Would an extra couple of cores for an extra £130 be worth it to "future proof", or do I just use the 3600 as a stepping stone ?
 
just wait for the next revisions of the current new amd cpus. your cpu will be fine for a while yet.

That makes perfect sense. My 1600 is still doing the biz and is a good match for my GTX1070. Think i'll sit back and watch Intel and AMD slog it out for a while. Also, Nvidia might respond to what AMD are doing with their GPUs.
 
It's easy to read too many posts on OCUK and get carried away with "upgrade-itis". If you are genuinely happy with what you have and seek VFM, then I say simply stay where you are; read the posts on here for fun, whilst staying firmly sat on your wallet. :D

I knew this, but thanks for the confirmation. I kept my i5-2500K for about 5 years (I actually bought it a day or two before Intel launched Ivybridge CPUs, knowing it was a good CPU with good overclocking prospects). I only upgraded to an R5 1600 when I started to see some actual frame rate issues in certain games. I really haven't seen any issues with the R5 1600 yet, so I must be suffering from a mild case of "upgrade-itis". Wallet closed for a while. :D
 
You can also use the shadow of tomb raider benchmark to see the bottleneck and then decide.

With highest settings @ 1440p, Average FPS 53, Min 42, Max 80

With high settings, Average FPS 60, Min 50, Max 90

I monitored CPU usage, mostly around 40 - 50%, peaked at about 70. GPU is pretty well maxed out.

So my "old, low end" R5 1600 is still coping well. GTX1070 is working hard, but the benchmark looks great and runs smooth (that's why I bought a G-Sync monitor). I`ve played a bit of the demo, and it runs great.

The GPU is the obvious upgrade, but I think I'll wait to see what Nvidia bring out next. Something like an RTX 2070 Super would increase FPS, but would an average of, say 77fps look any better than 53 - 60fps on my monitor ? I don't think so.
 
OP: the sentence where you say you can afford the highest chip but always get VFM just don't match up.

Sorry, I don't understand why you think it doesn't match up.

Some people that can afford "the best" (car, computer, clothes etc) just buy the best. That may leave them short of money for a while. Nothing wrong with that, but that's how some people behave.

I tend to look for value for money in pretty much everything I buy. That helps to leave me with money to buy other things that I may want or need. So I was just looking for opinions on a possible upgrade, given that I can afford pretty much any CPU, but don't want to spend more than I need to. And I've had good advice, including your own. If I do upgrade, it would be from a GTX1070 to an RTX2070 super, rather than a CPU upgrade. Having said that, an RTX2070S may be a little bottlenecked by my current CPU, so the upgrade might include both. Having thought about the options, I'm almost certainly going to wait for a while as my current setup is still performing well. Yes an RTX2070S will deliver a very decent increase in FPS, but I don't really have any issues with low frame rates at the moment.
 
Caved in and got a 3600.

Can't say that I've noticed a big difference in games/desktop performance, but I wasn't expecting to.

Temps are good though, especially under load. I've read a few comments about high idle temps, but I'm seeing around 29C. Maybe that's the Dark Rock Pro 3 doing it's thing.
 
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