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I'm upgrading from a 1600 to a 3600 and would like an AIO. What's the best one I could get for around £70? Ideally nothing to noisy but doesn't have to be super quiet either.
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Why? you can spend less than half that on an aircooler and be totally fine, but I still would never go for liquid cooling, don't see the point in the extra dangers that come with it tbh.
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The room my PC is in can get a bit hot due to it being quite small. I was thinking that an air cooler would just be pushing the warm air around and a water cooler would keep it cooler.
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Fair enough, though and air cooler vs a liquid cooler, if they both have the same cooling capacity would cool exactly the same as one another, even in a warmer room.
Personally I would go for a higher end air cooler then.
Personally I would go for a higher end air cooler then.
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Any of these would work well.
I wouldn't personally use an AIO at all, let alone within that price range given the air cooling options available. The NH-D14 is overkill, the 3600 doesn't exactly spew out heat, I'd opt for the Mugen 5 at the most.
- 1 x Raijintek Aidos Direct Contact CPU Cooler= £18.95
- 1 x Alpenfohn Ben Nevis Advanced CPU Cooler - 130mm= £25.99
- 1 x Arctic Freezer 34 eSports Duo Red CPU Cooler - 2 x 120mm= £34.99
- 1 x Scythe SCMG-5PCGH Mugen 5 "PCGH Edition" CPU Cooler= £46.99
- 1 x Noctua NH-D14 Dual Radiator CPU Cooler= £70.99
Total: £197.91 (includes shipping: £0.00)
Any of these would work well.
I wouldn't personally use an AIO at all, let alone within that price range given the air cooling options available. The NH-D14 is overkill, the 3600 doesn't exactly spew out heat, I'd opt for the Mugen 5 at the most.
It would be the same air being pushed through a radiator though. For the money you are looking at you'd get a very good air cooler or a low end AIO. Half the money would get a "good" air cooler and an awful if any AIO.
I think you're being overly critical to be honest. I've owned 3 in 6 years or so and never had an issue. My 4790k is on the Thermaltake AIO and my 980To under 120mm AIO. They're absolutely fine and any damage caused by leakage will be covered by the manufacturer.
Corsair H100i/H115i/H100x are worth looking at, as it the Thermaltake 240mm unit (which I'm using now)
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Fair enough, but spending more than you have to to do a job that has the extra danger of messing your computer up seems, well, a bit silly. If that is over critical, so be it.
I've had large air coolers as well and I 100% see your point. There are benefits though to AIOs...mainly aesthetics if that's your thing, but take look at the weight of the alpehfohn dual tower cooler...it cannot be good for a motherboard to have that pressure on the back of it. I'm certain there are reports of memory banks failing due to these being used, over tightening and weight being the cause.
Personally I think they're more efficient, but air coolers are cheaper...depending on what you buy.
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Thanks all, I'll have a think about it.
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YouTube tests have shown that a Noctua DH-15 is as good as a 360mm AIO. Cheaper, less to go wrong, just as quiet, easily fits in most cases. Any cooler you fit in a warm room will effectively cool the same as the hot air exhausted out of the case only goes into the room.
If you want to actually cool the cpu more effectively the heat needs to be dumped outside the room, preferably outside the house (except in Winter when you want it to stay in the house as it cuts your heating bill). To do that you need an external radiator with long enough tubing that you could put it by a window.
If you want to actually cool the cpu more effectively the heat needs to be dumped outside the room, preferably outside the house (except in Winter when you want it to stay in the house as it cuts your heating bill). To do that you need an external radiator with long enough tubing that you could put it by a window.
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