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R600 + R700 !

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Forgive me if something has already been posted, but while trying to unearth some info about the R600 I am eagerly awaiting, I turned up this (quoted verbatim):

Radeon R700

The Radeon R700 is a future Graphics Processing Unit to be manufactured by ATI, set to be the second series of Radeon GPU that supports DirectX 10 specifications.

Rumours

A cluster of smaller GPUs will be replacing the current large single GPU design used in current high-end graphics cards.
The cluster of GPUs will be comprising of modular designed units and connected through an interconnect, such as HyperTransport or a FSB.
More modular, more scalable than previous GPUs.
Although less concrete, ATI's major competitor, NVIDIA's G90 GPU, may also take the same modular and clustering of smaller GPUs route.


Info from the inquirer admittedly, so probably conjecture ....

Back to the more immediate future, does anyone have any knowledge of R600 different to what I found below:

R600:
Core 700 MHz to 800 MHz.
64 unified shader pipelines (complex 4-way SIMD units), 32 TMUs, and 16 ROPs.
1024 bit internal bi-directional Ring Bus.
GDDR4 memory interface with a 512 bit bus and 1024 MB RAM

Power consumption range from 130W to 225W. This increase in power consumption will make for higher-wattage Power Supply Units and/or the addition of internal, secondary PSUs solely for powering the GPUs.


Eek ... glad I bought the Enermax 1000W now :p
 
Given that we're making our way towards multiple cored CPUs, I really don't find it surprising that the GPU makers are taking the same route.

If they carry on the way they are I really think R700 would have been triple slot, or required water cooling.
 
Fair enough, didn't see that bit, must be going blind. :o

I do think there's a fair chance these "rumours" could see the light of day though.
 
Aye but no smoke without fire, and given the release of R600 is allegedly not too far off, I was hoping someone might have some other sources with info that may or may not co-relate with the above.
You can't blame a guy for trying, I need to do something to while away the time until availability :D
 
Junk said:
glad i bought a 8800GTX

me too, overclocking my x1900xtx was a nightmare, my 8800gtx and bro's gts are so much more fun to OC.

Having got the card in December with kewl black PCB ;) by the time the r600 arrives and prices are realistic/stablised/leveled off I would have had it 4months ;) then if the r600 turns out to be only a lil better and does not oc that well I will be even happier that I did not wait months for it :p

EDIT: I would not like to have to buy a new PSU just to power that card, so saved I've even more cash in my eyes :cool:

EDIT2: My 8800gtx fits in my case with about 5mm to spare, so if the R600 is bigger I would have to mutilate my drive bays to fit it in (have to buys tools do the job also, don't want no boge job)
 
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Well apart from posting irrelevant info in the thread (I don't recall it being titled ATI vs Nvidia anywere :p), I had SLI'd 8800GTX's ... but no matter how fast they are, nvidia cant deliver the quality or quantity of drivers that ATi do IMO.
Thats just my view, so stop trying to bait, and taking the thread OT :rolleyes: :)
 
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Vogon said:
Well apart from posting irrelevant info in the thread (I don't recall it being titled ATI vs Nvidia anywere :p), I had SLI'd 8800GTX's ... but no matter how fast they are, nvidia cant deliver the quality or quantity of drivers that ATi do IMO.
Thats just my view, so stop trying to bait, and taking the thread OT :rolleyes: :)

do you disagree with any of the posts?

ATI took a while to fully support the x1950's properly IIR
My NVidia drivers are working fine with my 8800 in winXP, and so is my bro's and my mates GTS sli config.

The only person I know who had probs after installing her 8800 was my friend Hayley-K and it turned out to be her mobo forceware drivers.
 
AHHHHH fair enough its your thread :p

Yeah I had seen the info about the R600 a while back over a month ago and pretty much the same as you posted BUT the R700 stuff was news to me and I do not think ne1 else has posted that info yet.

The R700 does look FAR superior and makes the R600 look dull in comparison, I will skip the R600 and wait for the R700 me thinks :D
 
GPUs are highly parallel architectures, so there wouldn't be much point in having multiple cores, you just have to put more pipelines on the single core, rather than making 2 cores with half the pipelines each.
 
Gashman said:
sorry but this seems like a somewhat pointless post, one could say R700 will easily own G90 :rolleyes:
One could say that was pointless as it should be blisteringly obvious that my post wasn't serious. :confused:
 
Well the more pipelines the better, but what happens when the pipelining breaks? You cant predict 100% what the user will decide to do really.
 
Minstadave said:
GPUs are highly parallel architectures, so there wouldn't be much point in having multiple cores, you just have to put more pipelines on the single core, rather than making 2 cores with half the pipelines each.

except you get better yields with multicore processors at the kind of fabrication density that GPUs are based on : same approach which was taken with the SPE's in the PS3
 
Minstadave said:
GPUs are highly parallel architectures, so there wouldn't be much point in having multiple cores, you just have to put more pipelines on the single core, rather than making 2 cores with half the pipelines each.

Invert that and bingo, BECAUSE there highly parallel it makes them the perfect contender for 'multi core' GPU's. Its MUCH MORE desirable to have many small cores than 1 huge one, much less power consumption, more likley to have more working chips off one wafer, less complex, way easier to manufacture, runs cooler list goes on and on and on, I reckon the 'core' of GPUS using this will be AT LEAST 8 chips clustered together, say4/6 'stream processors (~32/64 streams EACH) then 2 'master chips' controlling it all
 
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