Rachel Riley - political commentator.

[h4rm0ny]

Not much to say here other than this will probably amuse a few people. Corbyn got an egg thrown at him. Owen Jones has been deploring such violence and Rachel Riley out of nowhere decided to wade in and hoist him on his petard a little. Jones is now throwing all kinds of hissy fits at her on Twitter right now.

 

[h4rm0ny]

The perfect woman.

Funny, beautiful, sense of humour. Pretty much the anti-Owen Jones, really.

 

[h4rm0ny]

Apparently the egg wasn’t ‘thrown’ it was slapped onto him, so...

Well I wasn't condoning egging politicians. (Especially if they're John Prescott). I was just sharing some humour in Rachel Riley taking a well-placed jab at Owen Jones.

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[h4rm0ny]

Tbh, if Owen said something along the lines of "Egging political opponents is fine" then fair enough - but he explicitly said "Egging a Nazi"

But as much as I dislike Corbyn (also Owen Jones on that matter) he isn't a Nazi & the comparison doesn't work & isn't very clever. The slightly more insidious aspect is to further push the narrative that criticism of the state of Israel is somehow akin to Nazism.

Antisemitism in the Labour party is more complex than the narrative will allow,

People who are antisemitic and have an Islamic background will support Labour due to the leaders stance on Israel.

People who are antisemitic & have a English nationality will tend to vote for the BNP/UKIP/Conservative party. (due to them being less likely to have pro immigration policies).

However, the vast majority of normal Conservative party members or Labour members are not antisemitic & neither party has any policies which come anywhere near it. The issue comes from the fact that only half of the known antisemitic side is spoken about in the most popular media.

On-top of that we have the media & Israel (as of the leaked tapes) openly stating them want to smear anybody who doesn't outright support them as being a racist. The media doesn't like JC due to his stance on high earners and tax, not that I believe it's some massive conspiracy.

Just more unenlightened self-interest.

Agreed. I have plenty of criticisms of Corbyn, but they're to do with economic policy or authoritarianism. He could be anti-semitic but how would I know? I get very tired of the endless attempts to conflate criticism of Israel (an apartheid state that sells weapons to genocidal groups engaged in ethnic cleansing) with anti-antisemitism. Zionism is Racial Supremacist movement for Jewish people. And about as historically well-founded as most racial supremacist movements (whether that be Afrocentrists, Aryan cults, or whatever). I've yet to see any charges of anti-antisemitism against Corbyn that don't in fact turn out to be opposition to Israel in my mind.

Apparently Macron, in France, has proposed legally defining criticism of Israel as anti-antisemitism.

 

[h4rm0ny]

so what did Corbyn do / say that so anti Jewish?? I hear about this anti-Semitism all the time (in relation to the labour party) but the news never says what was said / done... I'm picturing allegation of secret death camps, swastika flags and shrines to Hitler ...

From what I've seen, nothing. He takes a stance against Israel, he is supportive of Palestinian rights (and I think nationhood). There's a powerful Zionist lobby that instantly takes anything remotely like that and casts it as antisemitic. He may or may not have some antisemitism in his party these days as Labour have a growing number of Islamic members at various levels and antisemitism is rife in a lot of Islamic communities. But I've not seen anything from him of that kind. All I know is you can't say one damn thing against Israel without you being called antisemitic. Even if you're Jewish.

 

[h4rm0ny]

High welfare is socialist, by definition,

No it isn't. By definition.

High taxes are not inherently socialist. Socialism is state ownership (or effective ownership) of industry.

The Scandinavian economies are Social Democracies. Not the same thing. Do you also suppose that Yorkshire Pudding and Yorkshire Terriers are the same thing? Or Nuclear Power and Nuclear Weapons?