Radar Laser Detectors and Jammers Help

Johnnytoxic · 31 Mar 2011 at 23:54

Hi guys,

Anyone know much about these and what product is the market leader in this field?

InvaderGIR · 31 Mar 2011 at 23:57

Aren't jammers illegal?

Westyfield2 · 31 Mar 2011 at 23:58

Radar Jammers are illegal these days :/

Laser garage door openers however...

InvaderGIR · 1 Apr 2011 at 00:00

Westyfield2 said:
Laser garage door openers however...

When used as a jammer and not a garage door opener are also illegal.

Clarkey · 1 Apr 2011 at 00:01

There's a radar jammer fitted to my car, just how illegal is it? Have never and will never use it, could I get nicked just for having it?

snowdog · 1 Apr 2011 at 00:03

Radar detectors are illegal, but afaik laser ''parking sensors'' aren't, heard good things about the Laser interceptor

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Officially it's a parking sensor and while it is that it jams the rozzers lasers and bleeps when you are targetted, quickly brake and turn it off to not ''intentionally hamper police work'' which they CAN fine you for.

''http://www.laser-interceptor.net/''
the .co.uk site of that is not an authorized dealer so may be selling crap, the .net site is genuine.

I'd give you more info about radar detectors but the moral brigade will probably come moaning it's illegal so email me if you want to hear about them

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InvaderGIR · 1 Apr 2011 at 00:06

Clarkey said:
There's a radar jammer fitted to my car, just how illegal is it? Have never and will never use it, could I get nicked just for having it?

I'd guess so long as you never use it (and it is nor obvious) you should be fine, unless the police went over the car with a fine tooth combe looking for problems.

US Law - This is my original take on it, but that is US. :/

Trying to find a legit site about the UK though is proving a pain, loads of ***** sites that say it is fine....but they are ***** so I'm not surprised.

EDIT: Latest source I've found is 2008 and that is a bill not a law.

EDIT:

General Consensus said:
Q What is the SLD920 laser diffuser / blinder?
A This is not radar/laser detectors but laser diffuser. It installs under the front grill and diffuses the laser beam of hand held laser speed guns by emitting infra red light of the same frequency. It also signals audible (bleep) to warn you to slow down. Please note these units are technically illegal because they could be considered to "pervert the course of justice and interfere with police communications".

So yeah, no specific law against them, but as you are perverting the course of justice it is an offence.

Generally the use of them from the looks of the different sites is that you can use to detect, then drop speed and turn it off. But to be quite honest, why bother? Either don't speed and be fine, or if you are going to speed, just get caught like everyone else it isn't that big a deal.

Will · 1 Apr 2011 at 00:22

snowdog said:
Radar detectors are illegal, but afaik laser ''parking sensors'' aren't, heard good things about the Laser interceptor

Officially it's a parking sensor and while it is that it jams the rozzers lasers and bleeps when you are targetted, quickly brake and turn it off to not ''intentionally hamper police work'' which they CAN fine you for.

''http://www.laser-interceptor.net/''
the .co.uk site of that is not an authorized dealer so may be selling crap, the .net site is genuine.

I'd give you more info about radar detectors but the moral brigade will probably come moaning it's illegal so email me if you want to hear about them .

I don't know if you are discussing dutch law or not given your location but the opening part of your post is wrong for the UK - detectors, be they emissions based or reliant on a gps database, are still perfectly legal although jammers are rather more dubious!

Edit: I will add that there has been much debate as to whether those detectors that rely on detecting the radar or laser emissions, rather than relying on a camera database and gps, will be made illegal, but no legislation has yet been passed! The latter are likely to remain legal!

snowdog · 1 Apr 2011 at 00:24

InvaderGIR said:
I'd guess so long as you never use it (and it is nor obvious) you should be fine, unless the police went over the car with a fine tooth combe looking for problems.

US Law - This is my original take on it, but that is US. :/

Trying to find a legit site about the UK though is proving a pain, loads of ***** sites that say it is fine....but they are ***** so I'm not surprised.

EDIT: Latest source I've found is 2008 and that is a bill not a law.

EDIT:

So yeah, no specific law against them, but as you are perverting the course of justice it is an offence.

Generally the use of them from the looks of the different sites is that you can use to detect, then drop speed and turn it off. But to be quite honest, why bother? Either don't speed and be fine, or if you are going to speed, just get caught like everyone else it isn't that big a deal.

Get caught, right, in the UK you get points remember, the whole point is saving money and points. And the speed limit is a joke in lots of places.

snowdog · 1 Apr 2011 at 00:26

Will said:
I don't know if you are discussing dutch law or not given your location but the opening part of your post is wrong for the UK - detectors, be they emissions based or reliant on a gps database, are still perfectly legal although jammers are rather more dubious!

With radar detectors I mean actual radar detectors like from Belltronics or a Stinger DSI not gps databases...
Edit: hmmm your are right, my bad, radar detectors seem to be fine.

And invaderGIR showed that the laser jammers are pretty much described the same in UK law as here.

In that case I can tell you a bit:

These days radar detectors give a lot of false warnings, because of cars that use radar waves to automatically brake/ have adaptive cruise control for example. The range of them on their own isn't too great on all bands either and you'll often be better off with one with a filter, which increases the range and also makes cops nearly not be able to detect them with their radar detector detectors.

Beltronics 975 seems to be a popular model now.

InvaderGIR · 1 Apr 2011 at 00:27

snowdog said:
Get caught, right, in the UK you get points remember, the whole point is saving money and points. And the speed limit is a joke in lots of places.

You may think it is a joke, but an appropriate limit has been decided upon for a reason.

Seriously, grow up.

snowdog · 1 Apr 2011 at 00:37

InvaderGIR said:
You may think it is a joke, but an appropriate limit has been decided upon for a reason.

Seriously, grow up.

Yeah, eco hippies and people who love authority too much. Stop being on your high horse. A law doesn't make something right or wrong, look at Germany. ''Befehl ist befehl'' ''ordnung musst sein''. Blindly following order&rules results in bad things. I will always do my best to save as many motorists as possible from as many as possible speed traps.
Wasn't the speed limit going up from 70 to 80 mph in the UK too ?
So basically a higher speed was possible all along ?

InvaderGIR · 1 Apr 2011 at 00:43

snowdog said:
Yeah, eco hippies. Stop being on your high horse...

I have broken the speed limit, and in fact past police vehicles, I am not ashamed to admit it or anything, I am just prepared to take the hit should anything come of it. I am hardly on a high horse, I just despise people that advocate breaking the law to a point that they are doing such things as perverting the cause of justice/stopping police form being able to do their job properly.

snowdog said:
Wasn't the speed limit going up from 70 to 80 mph in the UK too ?
So basically a higher speed was possible all along ?

And early on there were no speed limits at all, your point is?

snowdog · 1 Apr 2011 at 00:48

InvaderGIR said:
I have broken the speed limit, and in fact past police vehicles, I am not ashamed to admit it or anything, I am just prepared to take the hit should anything come of it. I am hardly on a high horse, I just despise people that advocate breaking the law to a point that they are doing such things as perverting the cause of justice/stopping police form being able to do their job properly.

Well many people rather not, despite hating the speed limits. I also disagree with the police doing ''their job'', shafting motorists isn't their job imo or shouldn't be. Anything to stop the unnecessary 7.5 million speeding tickets in Holland every year, saving 1 motorist from a fine will make me fell good that they didn't fell victim of the wrong policy off the old National traffic officer Koos Spee and other car haters and eco hippies who constantly want to lower speeds for ''lower emmisions''.

And early on there were no speed limits at all, your point is?

Why tolerate them ? Opt for higher ones, in any way resist the laws you don't agree with. You need to write MP's, send letters to you favorite political party who agrees with you, write columns in papers or in other media to get the disgusting police tactics out in public, fight every single fine, only then they will change policy.

InvaderGIR · 1 Apr 2011 at 00:52

snowdog said:
Well many people rather not, despite hating the speed limits. I also disagree with the police doing ''their job'', shafting motorists isn't their job imo or shouldn't be. Anything to stop the unnecessary 7.5 million speeding tickets in Holland every year, saving 1 motorist from a fine will make me fell good that they didn't fell victim of the wrong policy off the old National traffic officer Koos Spee and other car haters and eco hippies who constantly want to lower speeds for ''lower emmisions''.

So stopping you and/or ticketing you for breaking the law isn't doing their job? So if someone breaks into your house and steals your TV you don't want them to be prosecuted for their crime?
That is essentially what you're saying you realise this.

snowdog said:
Why tolerate them ? Opt for higher ones, in any way resist the laws you don't agree with.

lol? I know you're a right Motors troll, but really, you believe that? You are showing very much that you are an immature child that needs to grow up.

snowdog · 1 Apr 2011 at 00:57

InvaderGIR said:
So stopping you and/or ticketing you for breaking the law isn't doing their job? So if someone breaks into your house and steals your TV you don't want them to be prosecuted for their crime?
That is essentially what you're saying you realise this.

First of all, breaking traffic laws is an infraction.
Stealing is a bad crime.

Secondly, stealing is wrong morally, speeding really isn't in many places and times.

lol? I know you're a right Motors troll, but really, you believe that? You are showing very much that you are an immature child that needs to grow up.

And you are clearly brainwashed by authoritarian rubbish. Even the biggest political party here now agrees that all the police have lost the respect of the people because people only see them writing fines and keeping eye on traffic. They only just abolished the ''minimum fones per cop'' rule which was put in by authoritarian left wig morons years ago because people simply started looking at the police here as an enemy rather than a friend.

Bless Liberal Conservatives

. The situation is improving here, police are forced to abolish their minimum fine policy's, to move most of their speed traps from motorways to built up areas, and the speed limit is being raised to 130 km/h

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Is public opinion of the police and speed limits really that different in the UK, in the NL in the time of the Tuf Tuf club respect was so low for speed traps because of the rubbish policy that people started burning down speed camera's everywhere.

As long as I keep seeing thumbs up after placing a carboard saying ''radar'' near mobile speed traps or flashing motorits I will keep doing it, I've been saved by other motorists at least twice too waving me down or flashing me.

Finally, OP wants help with either laser jammers or radar detectors, so obviously I'm not the only one...

InvaderGIR · 1 Apr 2011 at 01:17

snowdog said:
First of all, breaking traffic laws is an infraction.
Stealing is a bad crime.

Secondly, stealing is wrong morally, speeding really isn't in many places and times.

So when people go to court for speeding when they have broken the law and they lose their license and get loads of points and a fine....that is just an infraction?

snowdog said:
And you are clearly brainwashed by authoritarian rubbish. Even the biggest political party here now agrees that all the police have lost the respect of the people because people only see them writing fines and keeping eye on traffic. They only just abolished the ''minimum fones per cop'' rule which was put in by authoritarian left wig morons years ago because people simply started looking at the police here as an enemy rather than a friend.

You really are the stereotypical 'screw the system' child.

I do not agree with the speed limits myself, to a point. That is the key thing, the point at which the limits are worth while. Many vehicles and their drivers are not capable of controlling their vehicles in a safe manor at speed.

snowdog said:
Is public opinion of the police and speed limits really that different in the UK, in the NL in the time of the Tuf Tuf club respect was so low for speed traps because of the rubbish policy that people started burning down speed camera's everywhere.

I can't speak for everyone and I do not know what you're on about with 'Tuf Tuf club' but I know for sure that the UK government's "Speeding Kills" campaign was incorrect and wrong...as has been shown often.

snowdog said:
As long as I keep seeing thumbs up after placing a carboard saying ''radar'' near mobile speed traps or flashing motorits I will keep doing it, I've been saved by other motorists at least twice too waving me down or flashing me.

Which in the UK caused a motorist to get prosecuted for perverting the cause of justice, smart advocating that.

snowdog said:
Finally, OP wants help with either laser jammers or radar detectors, so obviously I'm not the only one...

And NL is different to the UK, do not keep assuming our country is the same as yours, it blatantly isn't. So do no advocate the use of these devices.

Lashout_UK · 1 Apr 2011 at 06:52

By the time it's detected it, it's too late.

Trifid · 1 Apr 2011 at 07:15

I've heard good things about the Target LT400 being a very effective garage door opener. If it detects another garage door opener trying to open your car it will quiz that device for 5 seconds while alerting the driver.

Johnnytoxic · 1 Apr 2011 at 07:33

InvaderGIR said:
So when people go to court for speeding when they have broken the law and they lose their license and get loads of points and a fine....that is just an infraction?

A motor offence is not a criminal offence.

And correct me if I'm wrong, but laser jammers work before police receive a speed back?