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Radeon X800 Series And HDR.
- Thread starter King_Boru
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Yea, it can render a form of HDR.
The source version of HDR works fine with shader model 2.0 cards, and it is infact real HDR but a different method is used to produce the effects than with 3.0 versions say such as farcry.
The source version of HDR works fine with shader model 2.0 cards, and it is infact real HDR but a different method is used to produce the effects than with 3.0 versions say such as farcry.
The X800 cannot fully render HDR in the commonly regarded sense of HDR. They can perform a lower detailed hack with a big performance hit but the output is not comparible to the HDR capabilites of the latest Nvidia and ATI hardware.
To date, there isn't a single full game that support HDR on the X800, just Hlaf life Lost Coast demo thing. And there most probably wont ever be any full games that will.
E.g. unreal 3 engine will not support HDR on that card (infact it wont really do anything mych on that card as it doesn't support PS3.0, VS3.0, dynamic branching, 32 bit recision shaders and a few otherthings that are key to the UE3 techology).
To date, there isn't a single full game that support HDR on the X800, just Hlaf life Lost Coast demo thing. And there most probably wont ever be any full games that will.
E.g. unreal 3 engine will not support HDR on that card (infact it wont really do anything mych on that card as it doesn't support PS3.0, VS3.0, dynamic branching, 32 bit recision shaders and a few otherthings that are key to the UE3 techology).
Soldato
I count Day of Defeat: Source as a full game, and that supports HDR on the X800 seriesD.P. said:
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King_Boru said:Ah, so HDR is available on SM2.0. Ta for clearing that up.
Yup sure is, HL2 for example.
A random name said:I count Day of Defeat: Source as a full game, and that supports HDR on the X800 series
I forgot about that one, but then by the commonly accepted definition of HDR it cannot be done fully with SM2.0 hardware. But there is no official definition of what HDR is so one can say the X800 can display soem form of limited HDR effects.
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Dont forget to add the New Day Of Defeat to the list 
What the source engine shows is that hdr can be done at an acceptable performance level and look just as nice as the SM3 hdr which is really just a higher precision method and wouldnt really be able to tell the difference unless you had the two methods running side by side. We need more sm2 freindly hdr games Having said that, games are starting to get slow now on my current X800 so that will be upgraded to an sm3 capable card anyway when i upgrade the rest of the aging system.
Recently tried the new starwars empire at war demo, and that causes quite a performace hit when all settings maxed. (and its not as if its doing an awful lot apart from rendering very tiny(but detailed) models).
What the source engine shows is that hdr can be done at an acceptable performance level and look just as nice as the SM3 hdr which is really just a higher precision method and wouldnt really be able to tell the difference unless you had the two methods running side by side. We need more sm2 freindly hdr games
Having said that, games are starting to get slow now on my current X800 so that will be upgraded to an sm3 capable card anyway when i upgrade the rest of the aging system. Recently tried the new starwars empire at war demo, and that causes quite a performace hit when all settings maxed. (and its not as if its doing an awful lot apart from rendering very tiny(but detailed) models).
Soldato
The SM2.0 version doesn't render the HDR as accurately as say, the Farcry SM3.0 version, but it does the job and i've gota say it does look fantasticD.P. said:
And with the current source HDR, you can actually have AA on as well, so it might not be as accurate as Farcry's version, but you're left with an overall better looking game imo
Basicly, you need to be able to blend high precision floating point buffers, Sm2.0 cannot do this and thus they cannot run HDR as most developers would call it.
I eman, you could run a demo on a voodoo 2 that showed some HDR effects but it doesn't make it HDR. The OP wanted to know if the X800 supports HDR, presumably he is looking to buy a card that supports it. The X800 supports HDR to a lesser degree than the Nvidia Fx5200 as even that has some of the required shaders. If the OP wants HDR capable hardware then he needs to buy NV4x or G7x hardware, or ATi R5xx or above.
I eman, you could run a demo on a voodoo 2 that showed some HDR effects but it doesn't make it HDR. The OP wanted to know if the X800 supports HDR, presumably he is looking to buy a card that supports it. The X800 supports HDR to a lesser degree than the Nvidia Fx5200 as even that has some of the required shaders. If the OP wants HDR capable hardware then he needs to buy NV4x or G7x hardware, or ATi R5xx or above.
Soldato
bleh, HDR, id rather not have loads of light glaring at me bluring my vision, how am i supposed to see the next person 2 kill with all the eye-candy distraction?