RAMDisk's?

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ok, i have 24GB of ram and windows 8 64bit. taskmanager shows i rarely use more than 4-6GB of ram, so was thinking maybe set a 10-15GB RAMDisk and maybe move temp files etc to that. now my question is A) is this wise and B) what folders would be best moved?
also, could i install things like google chrome, xbmc etc to the RAMDisk and they run faster?
 
Its best not to install anything to the RAM disk, once you switch off the PC or you get a Crash, anything that is in RAM is lost.
Maybe page file? this a big maybe like has I never used a RAMdisk before so what I say here may not be 100%
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On a second note I think RAMdisk software move the files you have on the RAMdisk onto the Hard-drive when shutting down to save them, but still if you crash you will loose everything stored on the RAMdisk
 
Its best not to install anything to the RAM disk, once you switch off the PC or you get a Crash, anything that is in RAM is lost.
Maybe page file? this a big maybe like has I never used a RAMdisk before so what I say here may not be 100%
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On a second note I think RAMdisk software move the files you have on the RAMdisk onto the Hard-drive when shutting down to save them, but still if you crash you will loose everything stored on the RAMdisk

ah didnt think about crashing, i know it saves it to a file on hard drive when you shutdown, so that would be safe, but the crashing thing could be an issue.
 
i also think some software also does intermittant saves from the ramdisk to your hdd to help if a crash occurs.
 
i also think some software also does intermittant saves from the ramdisk to your hdd to help if a crash occurs.

true, most program if not all the latest now do this, but as many of us now use uninterruptible power supplies anyway it none less safe than a standard sdd, which is 50/50 also on a power cut if it saves your data or not.

i've used a few now for a couple of years and wouldn't game without one, any game that lets you cache some of the data elsewhere, which most do now days would be loads faster with ram drives, easy to set up, easy to use, just need to be more care full with power yes for some users, think of any game which works of a disk, i just make a image Daemon tools lite and load that to my ram drive, game saves to sdd and caches off ram disk, speed is more than 20x faster than sdd alone, as i mainly play single player games like total war, have no idear what multi player ones would be like so can't comment on them, i'd guess you would still be waiting for others to catch up so guess it would be of no help for those online games etc

please remember i'm talking about software ram drives, not hardware ones either, as cost's are still too high tbh
 
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true, most program if not all the latest now do this, but as many of us now use uninterruptible power supplies anyway it none less safe than a standard sdd, which is 50/50 also on a power cut if it saves your data or not.

i've used a few now for a couple of years and wouldn't game without one, any game that lets you cache some of the data elsewhere, which most do now days would be loads faster with ram drives, easy to set up, easy to use, just need to be more care full with power yes for some users, think of any game which works of a disk, i just make a image Daemon tools lite and load that to my ram drive, game saves to sdd and caches off ram disk, speed is more than 20x faster than sdd alone, as i mainly play single player games like total war, have no idear what multi player ones would be like so can't comment on them, i'd guess you would still be waiting for others to catch up so guess it would be of no help for those online games etc

please remember i'm talking about software ram drives, not hardware ones either, as cost's are still too high tbh

which files do you need to move to the ram drive to get the speed increases in games? is there a common cache folder or will it be game specific? are there any windows cache/temp folders that would be advantageous to move to a ramdisk?
 
most ram disk programs will tell you what to use, some games are specific but most use temp folders / files, so moving your temp folder for a start will speed up almost every app/program and game you use.

doing a google search for a certain game or app/program gives good results, or use the ram disk program running it the backgroun to tell you what's being used the most etc, sometimes it's only large texture files or certain large files than even need putting on the ram disk, and that speeds up loading or waiting times, instead of seeing the egg timer of doom, it goes on then back to playing, so no waiting at all, but it does depend on what game and how it works etc, anything that's over a certain file size works a lot faster on ram drives, or any file that's accessed a lot. if you find a folder that's called data etc, moving that or intro's cut scene's or movies etc are also instant. but many types of files / folders and programs can be moved or installed that way, or the whole game etc, as it only need's to save on the ram disk, then before you close down, move the saves to your sdd, this is what i do the most, install the whole game to a ram disk, then save the image so as to only install the game once, can make new images as updates come out etc, all saves are instant to the ram disk, then make a backup to your sdd in a folder called well i call games saves, then when i re load the image, which is instant for some and still loads quicker for other games on a standard load time, just re add the saves and play, seems to be a bit of messing about but most big games are well worth it for the gains, but not all work that way, some you still need the game installed on your sdd and just cache some data only

if you use let say steam a lot, all data is in one folder, and each game install has it own settings etc, so can easy be moved onto a ramdisk

Dataram RAMDisk is freeware for personal use (up to 4 GB disk size). Disks larger than 4 GB require registration and a license, i've tried many types of programs, all upto yet have worked well, remember you can have as many drives as you have letters left 26 is max i think :) if you can get a board with that much memory in it

some useless facts for you, the biggest ram drive in the world is owned by the USA Government and stands at 2.5TB in size in solid state memory and cost in 2007 4.7million dollars but they did get a discount but didn't print how much :) the system which is made up from 40 RamSan 320 units to make one or many multiply drives

for speed nerds,

A RamSan 320 unit holds up to 64GB of RAM in a 3U rack unit. The US government order is housed in three full height rack units. There are over 320 2Gbit/s Fibre Channel ports and the aggregate I/O rate is 36Gbit/s

the ram disk works with a 100TB SDD for back up storage and is used for database use only.
 
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ok one quick, and probably very stupid question, how do you change the location of the temp folder to the ramdisk with the programs knowing where to look?
 
ok so i have set up a 12GB ramdisk and moved the appdata/local/temp and windows/temp (TEMP + TMP) folders using system properties (environment variables), IE Cache using internet options, XBMC and Chrome user data files using ​mklink /J, what else should i move over to the ramdisk to speed things up?
 
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some useless facts for you, the biggest ram drive in the world is owned by the USA Government and stands at 2.5TB in size in solid state memory and cost in 2007 4.7million dollars but they did get a discount but didn't print how much :) the system which is made up from 40 RamSan 320 units to make one or many multiply drives

for speed nerds,

A RamSan 320 unit holds up to 64GB of RAM in a 3U rack unit. The US government order is housed in three full height rack units. There are over 320 2Gbit/s Fibre Channel ports and the aggregate I/O rate is 36Gbit/s

the ram disk works with a 100TB SDD for back up storage and is used for database use only.

That was reported in 2004 here (first google hit for "worlds biggest ram drive" for me at least).

For an idea of how things have moved on from 2004 ...

The Supermicro X9QR7-TF+ (Quad E5 board) board can take up to 1TB of 1600MHz ram over 32DIMM slots spread between 16x 12.8GB/s channels (so giving up to 204.8GB/s CPU to Ram bandwidth).

Supermicro X9QR7-TF+ costs: US$1,500
KVR13LR9Q4/32 memory module (only 32GB modle kingston list forthis board): (US$780 x32) = approx US$25,000
Add 4 E5 Xeons E5-2620: (US$415 x4) = US$1,660.
Chassis at say US$1000
Total: US$29,160 at 'off the shelf pricing'. This will be only 169GB/s memory bandwidth max though as the ram is only 1333MHz.

Add some backup SSD storage (intel 520 or 710 drives) for non volitile backup and away you go.
Add a few Infinband QDR 40Mbit (5GB/s) connections if external connectivity is required.

Ahh... the march of pogress.

Now what could I do with a 900GB ram drive :D.

RB
 
first reported but only installed and up and running in 2007 fully, still not been beaten either as yet, maybe nobody thinks or needs that big now days.

also googled it myself as even my brain cant store that much random rubbish as google can :)
 
Brilliant things Ram Disks/ RamDrives, been using them for several years, wouldn't put the Page File on one though, I use mine for FireFox cache, work area for photoshop,write buffer my ssd, system temp files & on my htpc for video editing buffering.

Been using DataRam Retail, licence cost me about £12, which allows your you to back up, use multiple ram drives up to 64gb, & several other useful things.
Remember, once you delete from a ram drive it's gone for ever, so back up if important.

Just use the search feature on this forum for ramdrives, ramsdisks, loads of threads availables.

See this thread, http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18482374&highlight=ramdisk

http://memory.dataram.com/products-and-services/software/ramdisk?

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18441854&highlight=ramdrive
 
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first reported but only installed and up and running in 2007 fully, still not been beaten either as yet, maybe nobody thinks or needs that big now days.

also googled it myself as even my brain cant store that much random rubbish as google can :)

Probably,

Big business needs reliability with speed and SAS or Enterprise SSD seem to be the choice.

I did run a Minecraft server off a ramdirve for a while and that was very nippy but was a pain to have to keep backing up just in case the power went or the server broke down. Replaced the ramdrive with a SSD in the end.

With PCIe 3 nwo here, maybe someone will take another look as DDR ram is cheap but as SSD is already pretty fast for most I would imagine it will stay in the high performance arena (i.e. very expensive).

RB
 
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