Random Strava thought regarding achievements

Soldato
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Following this thread, I've been riding a lot more recently.

Yesterday I went on a route I hadn't been on for a while and smashed 19 PRs, along with six 2nd places (worst brag thread ever, right?).

Anyway, a couple of those "2nd places" were equal in time to previous PRs and it got me thinking. Does anyone know why Strava doesn't rank them as a "joint PR"?

I see some logic, in that the original PR was the first time I achieved that result, but the times were the same, it doesn't make sense to me that equaling a PR should be considered second place. Surely, it should be joint first?

I tried to find some precedent in athletics, e.g. where someone matched an Olympic or World Record in a subsequent competition, but I could only find examples of gold-medal ties at the same meeting.

It would be so easy to implement as well, instead of PR / 2 / 3 in the medal icons, you could just have a horizontal bar or an equals sign.

I'm clearly overthinking it, but does anyone agree with my proposal or is there a legitimate reason for the current system?
 
Because every segment should get a time improvement after you know the terrain you are dealing with on the second and subsequent attempt along it. ;)

But having said that, some of my early attempts up local cat4s remained my PBs after multiple attempts, perhaps due to their location (so I'm not likely to hit them early on) and the likelihood of having tried to improve other cat4 PBs on my way over to them.

I was very late to hit the Strava bandwagon in September 2016, so I missed them entirely, but every now and again I come across rides where a rider was given a trophy for at least the best segment time in a particular year. Would be nice to see that one return.
 
Most likely as you have achieved your PB again, it lets you know, so next time maybe you push a bit harder? I think you are overthinking it though :)
Ah, but it doesn't let me know I've achieved my PB again. By giving me a 2nd place medal, it tells me that my time was slower than my PB, even though it wasn't. I'm definitely overthinking it. :p

Because every segment should get a time improvement after you know the terrain you are dealing with on the second and subsequent attempt along it. ;)

True, but there are plenty of variables that could affect one's time by a second or two, as you point out:

But having said that, some of my early attempts up local cat4s remained my PBs after multiple attempts, perhaps due to their location (so I'm not likely to hit them early on) and the likelihood of having tried to improve other cat4 PBs on my way over to them.

I was very late to hit the Strava bandwagon in September 2016, so I missed them entirely, but every now and again I come across rides where a rider was given a trophy for at least the best segment time in a particular year. Would be nice to see that one return.

Yeah they ditched that in 2015 due to user feedback. I think the leaderboards were getting confusing with multiple KOMs.

*EDIT* Seems I'm not the only one to think this. :p
 
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