Rant about idiot drivers in Tuesday's snow

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Ok, Tuesday, the snow having finally gone away, I call a customer in Liverpool and arrange to go visit them on Wednesday morning, of course by the time I've got home, packed my bags and left the snow has fallen heavily here in south Wales and the ***** are out in force.

I only realise how bad it is when going downhill on a dual carriageway, only the left lane is usable, due to tyre tracks through it, but on the other side that lane has been filled with abandoned cars and the unusable right hand lane is now full of people just spinning their wheels and getting nowhere, before they give up and add to the growing pile of abandoned cars. I figure I should abandon this journey, but that means turning around and joining that pile of idiocy.

Next hill is a single carriageway, 2 lanes up, 1 lane down, and the only people who can use the middle lane to go up are the people in proper Land Rovers or riding quad bikes. The downhill people are going very slowly due to the tailback caused by the idiots in the above paragraph, and my uphill lane is stuck due to a single decker bus spinning it's back wheels and getting nowhere, just before the summit of the hill. So what does the identical single decker bus behind me decide to do. He goes for the snow filled middle lane and tries to overtake everybody.

I'm parked on one of the steeper parts and guess at what is going to happen. I reverse back to where the bus just was and sure enough he manages to swing his back end out into where I was just moments before, barely missing my front bumper, and then gets stuck and gives up. I use a handy layby to undertake him, and give a few choice hand gestures.

Of course this now means that the 4x4 ambulance that has just appeared at the top of the hill, wanting to go down the middle lane, is now delayed for about 20 minutes while the downhill people provide a suitable gap to let it past the bus.

3 hours later I reach the top of the hill, a hill that normally takes me a couple of minutes.

Now I have to contend with a sodding Nissan Micra doing 5mph, which is simply not fast enough on this terrain, sure it's fine on the flat but at the next hill he's going to get stuck half way. I leave a nice big gap, don't want to stop as I'll never get moving again. The only good thing about this speed is I'm able to offer some poor old bloke who'd abandoned his car on the previous hill a lift to the next town so he doesn't freeze to death, and he can get in and out without me having to stop.

Next hill I end up having to overtake that bloody Micra as sure enough they'd got stuck half way up, and now it's snow filled dual carriageway all the way to the M4, still only with one useable lane. I'm pushing it a bit, doing 20mph but after a bit who should turn up and proceed to sit 1 1/2 car lengths off my arse, it's that ****ing Micra driver again, I'm starting to get rattled now as this is getting dangerous, especially since it's not the sort of situation where you want to be applying brakes. I'm in 2nd gear using engine braking to slow down, and I make a mistake, I drop into 1st too soon and the car is instantly sideways across both lanes. Fortunately I don't hit anything, but that Micra comes to a stop about 6 inches off my drivers door.

I stick it in reverse, get back onto the road and carry on, finally the Micra driver gets it and leaves me a decent amount of space.

3 1/2 hours to get to the M4/M5 junction. Normally I'd go cross country and it'd take me an hour to get to the M50/M5 junction. Finally get to Liverpool at 1:30AM.

Oh and in the morning, the snow had followed me up north.
 
I normally don't read long posts, but that was an intriguing read. What an idiot in that Micra..

Like msm722 said, unfortunately this type of behaviour is getting to be the norm as we get more snowy conditions, people get scared and panic and in this particular situation... their IQ drops 99% :o
 
most people should stick a shovel in the boot then if your car gets stuck in the snow you can clear enough for your car to get traction and start moving again ^^ rather than block a lane
 
most people should stick a shovel in the boot then if your car gets stuck in the snow you can clear enough for your car to get traction and start moving again ^^ rather than block a lane

Isn't there a recommended list of items you should have in the car when making a journey in the snow? I'm pretty sure there is, and shovel is on it.
 
What did you expect would happen when driving on a freshly snow covered road where everybody is using unsuitable tyres? The advice is to not drive for a good reason.
 
Shovel/many layers/gloves when travelling in the snow!

Infact add a high vis vest to that for night time

oh and rope
 
Problem is my work has a clause in my contract where if I book a hotel for an overnight job and then don't turn up, I have to pay for it.

Also the steepest hill in my area is the one at the start of my post, which was going to be unpassable unless I went all the way to the M4 and took another route. Once on the M4 I may as well just continue my journey.

I like the advice not to drive, it means that people without reasoning or critical thinking skills end up staying off the roads and thus the roads become a lot safer. Doesn't help when the snow falls suddenly and without warning a day early and just before the start of rush hour though.
 
You know, now that I've posted this and thus had to think about it again, I think I know what the Micra driver was doing.

When they found themselves at the front of the queue, with no idea what to do, they got scared and went slow. Once I'd overtaken them, they must have figured out that a bit of speed is actually necessary. Presumably they then rolled down the hill and had another go at a decent speed and got up the hill, and thus decided that normal speeds must still apply.

When they were following me they were not agressive, or flashing their lights or giving any sign of wanting to overtake, he seemed quite content to just follow me, I guess it means one less thing to think about. I actually see this a lot on the motorway, you'll get someone who decides that they like your driving and follows you, copying your lane and speed changes and even if you slow down to let them past because you don't like them following so close, they just slow down too. It's the same here, they even used their standard following distance for a 25mph speed. Basically they just don't think at all.

At the end of the day maybe that driver learned something about how snow affects stopping distances, and how to get up a hill properly. I certainly learned one thing not to do in the snow and no harm was done.


Well I suspect harm was done to whoever was waiting for that ambulance that the selfish idiot bus driver blocked :(
 
Horrendously infuriating isn't it - if you don't feel confident driving it (as many drivers seem to appear) then simply don't go out! Dangerous to other road users if you're not going to just get on with it, as well as being irritating and unneccessary.

I've been in to two Halfords, no, I lie, 3 - and none of them have had tow ropes. Most infuriating. My current one is heavily frayed now so I'm not using it.
 
I've been in to two Halfords, no, I lie, 3 - and none of them have had tow ropes. Most infuriating. My current one is heavily frayed now so I'm not using it.

I live a few junctions down from Bridgend, everywhere has been sold out of tow ropes for the last couple of years :D


Seriously though, yes it's annoying. Tuesday was particularly bad as it caught everyone by surprise just before they left work to go home for the day. I should however point out that my GF sucessfully made it home from Bath in her L reg 250BHP RWD 200SX :)

Previous snowfalls have been overnight so lots of folk stayed at home and thus the roads have been quite a lot of fun.

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^^^ whenever i see that pic i think that the car lost traction and that's where it came to a stop :D
 
No I reversed there after deciding that the next hill, leading to the proper car park, was not climbable.

The downside of having a GF into photography is that when the snow falls, I get dragged out to places like that since a) I have the 4WD car, and b) camera equipment is expensive and easy to steal.
 
Some people are simply unreal, I have been genuinely surprised that nowhere on the news or from the government was there some proper advice about how to drive in the snow. Just the basics about using higher gears, being extremely gentle with the loud pedal and the brakes and preserving momentum for hills would surely have helped?

On a side note I was ludicrously over prepared (once a boy scout always a ...) and have been packing since the snow started in addition to my usual in car kit of tools and first aid;
food and drink
1 sleeping bag
1 full change of clothes
1 30m rope
1 tow rope
1 hand winch
a selection of slings
1 shovel
1 blowtorch
1 torch
additional warm clothing
de-icer and screen wash
some rock salt

The result not once was I stuck, I was almost disappointed tbh
 
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