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Raptor Lake Leaks + Intel 4 developments

So, buy an Intel CPU if you want more cores (and therefore multithreaded performance). It's not really a focus for AMD. I would guess that the max core count will improve on Ryzen CPUs, as the process technology (almost certainly TSMC) improves and matures, and demand for >8 cores gradually increases.

Well currently, Intel has the ST performance crown. Still unclear if 13900k or 7950X will claim the best stock ST score, rumours suggest Intel will come on top, though you never know!
 
Well currently, Intel has the ST performance crown. Still unclear if 13900k or 7950X will claim the best stock ST score, rumours suggest Intel will come on top, though you never know!

Rumor had it that the 11900K was going to be the best processor in the universe ever, or was that rumor just your hope and imagination since it was a damp squib, or should I say a hot damp squib. :p
 
So, buy an Intel CPU if you want more cores (and therefore multithreaded performance). It's not really a focus for AMD. I would guess that the max core count will improve on Ryzen CPUs, as the process technology (almost certainly TSMC) improves and matures, and demand for >8 cores gradually increases.
So what your saying is buy Intel if you want more performance now or buy AMD if you want to spend more cash for less performance as its not AMDs focus right now but have the ability to spend even more cash on a CPU upgrade in a few years as the current one didn't have enough performance to last.
 

Intel Core i9-13900K single-core reportedly boosts up to 6.5 GHz with very light load (LN2)​


Source: https://videocardz.com/newz/asus-ro...quipped-with-core-i9-13900k-cpu-and-20-cooler




Crazy if true - 13th gen seems to run cool and quiet, while Zen4 rumours are of 94DC+ on 360mm AIO. WTB Official reviews so we can see which is true!
there was no LN2 near it, i saw all the posts this morning on OCN before all the posts were removed, he was gonna start watercooling soon and may of posted up some results, doubtful now as he will be in the naughty corner!!
 
No one will be interested in buying a 13900K when Meteor Lake and the generation after that are released.
Not true, I upgraded my 6400 to a 6700k a year or two back for £75 and performance was much improved and all I had to do was reinstall the chip and the heatsink. Maybe a minority but not no-one.
Only trouble is the upgrade cost was near the original difference in price making me wish I'd gone higher end originally.
 
So what your saying is buy Intel if you want more performance now or buy AMD if you want to spend more cash for less performance as its not AMDs focus right now but have the ability to spend even more cash on a CPU upgrade in a few years as the current one didn't have enough performance to last.
Or, just keep posting here if you enjoy shilling for Intel.
 
So what your saying is buy Intel if you want more performance now or buy AMD if you want to spend more cash for less performance as its not AMDs focus right now but have the ability to spend even more cash on a CPU upgrade in a few years as the current one didn't have enough performance to last.
OK, this statement is just outright horse manure even by your standards.

If you think Ryzen 7000 doesn't have "enough performance to last" which will require you buying a new CPU and CPU only in a few years, then Raptor Lake sure as sugar isn't going to have "enough performance to last" and will require an entirely new platform when you "need" to upgrade.

Honestly, how do you even take yourself seriously with this nonsense?
 
Not true, I upgraded my 6400 to a 6700k a year or two back for £75 and performance was much improved and all I had to do was reinstall the chip and the heatsink. Maybe a minority but not no-one.
Only trouble is the upgrade cost was near the original difference in price making me wish I'd gone higher end originally.
You want a laugh? My 6700k system (from OCUK) was 7 years old last month if the paperwork is to be believed.
I stumbled upon that black document sleeve they issue with your order and my jaw hit the floor. I had it in my head it was maybe 5 or 6 years at a stretch
All I've really done aside from making sure it was thoroughly clean (no dust bunnies) is put a 1080ti in at some point, add a bit more memory and change/add to the storage.
 
You want a laugh? My 6700k system (from OCUK) was 7 years old last month if the paperwork is to be believed.
I stumbled upon that black document sleeve they issue with your order and my jaw hit the floor. I had it in my head it was maybe 5 or 6 years at a stretch
All I've really done aside from making sure it was thoroughly clean (no dust bunnies) is put a 1080ti in at some point, add a bit more memory and change/add to the storage.
Those chips are/were great. Big step forward from the couple of gens before!
 
OK, this statement is just outright horse manure even by your standards.

If you think Ryzen 7000 doesn't have "enough performance to last" which will require you buying a new CPU and CPU only in a few years, then Raptor Lake sure as sugar isn't going to have "enough performance to last" and will require an entirely new platform when you "need" to upgrade.

Honestly, how do you even take yourself seriously with this nonsense?
Lets compare rocket lakes $262 11600k vs the $300 5600X
Rocket Lake will be DOA. multithreaded performance already beaten by Zen 2, probably single core performance parity with Zen 3.

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Now lets look at look at the 7600X vs 12600k

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And finally the 13600K vs 7600X
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Full specs have been 'leaked' onto the web for the 13th generation and Z790 chipset:

Not much too say really, no real surprises. Turbo Power consumption for the unlocked i9s (253w) is a bit higher than the 12th gen's 12900K and 12900KS, clocks are a bit higher too. Biggest difference is more E-cores + increase in CPU caches, as was previously known.

Notably, the 13700K and KF total power usage is also 253w, quite a bit higher than the 190w total power consumption of the 12700K and KF. Decent cooling not optional. Looks like high end cooling will be required to overclock.

Same total number of lanes on the Z790 platform, with more PCIE 4 lanes. Lowest DDR5 supported RAM speed is now 5600 MT/s. DDR4 support the same. Max USB 3.2 2x2 ports increased by 1.

No mention of changes to the IMC / memory controller gears.

No mention of the locked versions of these CPUs, or the cheaper B760 chipset motherboards, so these must be coming around Q1 2023.
 
OK, this statement is just outright horse manure even by your standards.

If you think Ryzen 7000 doesn't have "enough performance to last" which will require you buying a new CPU and CPU only in a few years, then Raptor Lake sure as sugar isn't going to have "enough performance to last" and will require an entirely new platform when you "need" to upgrade.

Honestly, how do you even take yourself seriously with this nonsense?
How so? The 13600K is way faster than the 7600x in mt and i know for a fact those ecores give a huge boost to some games, like spiderman hitman 3 etc. So it is very likely the 13600k will have way more longevity.

Of course on the other hand am5 is upgradable, so 5 years from now you can get a 10600x that will perform as well as the 13600k, but then the question is why not just buy the 13600k now and be done with it?
 
Of course on the other hand am5 is upgradable, so 5 years from now you can get a 10600x that will perform as well as the 13600k, but then the question is why not just buy the 13600k now and be done with it?

You see, it is when you make statements like that you can tell you have an agenda, rather than just presenting facts. It's no wonder you end up getting banned from threads tbh.
 
It's interesting that the thermal velocity boost clock (5.8ghz) for the 13900K will only be possible if the CPU runs at 70 degrees Celsius or lower. That extra 100mhz on 1 core is tough to get...

Full 'leak' slides here:

Igor also says "In case anyone is wondering if that’s all for today: No! At 2 p.m. sharp, there will be a product launch with two test samples".
 
You see, it is when you make statements like that you can tell you have an agenda, rather than just presenting facts. It's no wonder you end up getting banned from threads tbh.
What exactly do you find objectionable to what I said? Not even joking, can you pinpoint it?

I really think it will take at least 2 gens for an R5 cpu to get 13600k MT performance. Even with a very generous 25% gen on gen improvement, 2 generations ain't cutting it.
 
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