Raw fish for Sushi

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Hello all,

I am going to attempt sushi for the first time this evening.

I have everything apart from the raw fish. I have been told that standard stuff from the supermarket is not safe for consumption raw.

I will try today with cucumber and fishsticks and some smoked salmon.

Where do you find sushi grade raw fish? What other toppings do you use?

sid
 
Sushi grade tuna surely would be at a fish market in London or even a popular chinese supermarket. I don't know London but google might turn up some results? Sorry. :(
 
How about the fish market, is it billingate or something like that.

Yeah I need to get there at 5am to be in with a chance.

I will have to try oriental supermarkets I guess.

But we agree that sushi grade raw fish isn't same as ordinary raw fish? there is confusion about that with people I asked.
 
Where do you find sushi grade raw fish? What other toppings do you use?
I can't speak for other supermarkets, mainly because I've never looked, but Waitrose used to sell a sushi kit.

It had about fifteen or so pieces of sashimi (tuna, salmon, mackeral, prawn/shrimp) and a few other odds and sods. All you needed to do was make the sushi rice and build your meal.

You should be fine getting some very fresh tuna from your local fishmonger/supermarket fish counter providing it's just been taken out of the freezer. Same goes for salmon, scallops, etc.
 
I would ask in a fishmonger if you dont have access to a market. They should have a good idea of when it was caught (unlikely in a supermarket I would have thought, but could be wrong). As others have said, the key is freshness. Fresh fish shouldn't smell "fishy", not be at all slimy and should have nice bright eyes, but not sure if that's enough indicator of freshness for eating raw.
 
Of the supermarkets Morrisons and Waitrose fish is often fresh enough for sushi if you ask them.

Wing Yip in London or atari-ya also have fresh fish

There must be a fish monger though that you can use, if Oxford has one then London must have lots!
 
As others have said, the key is freshness. Fresh fish shouldn't smell "fishy", not be at all slimy and should have nice bright eyes, but not sure if that's enough indicator of freshness for eating raw.
It's more to do with how the fish has been prepared and stored. Ideally it needs to have been frozen for a certain period of time in order to kill any parasites and then stored on ice or frozen.

Obviously the fresher the fish in the first place the longer it will last, but properly prepared and stored sashimi can stay perfectly usable for longer than you'd think.
 
I regularly eat fish from supermarkets raw and have had no issues at all. The freshness of the source and standards upheld in handling and preparation are more than adequate as you should expect from such companies. My local Sainsbury's here in Epsom say they sell enough that they get supplied every day.

From what research I've ever done, other than basic freshness and good handling practices (which apply to a lot more than fish), it's parasite worms that are the specific worry. The advice is to avoid freshwater fish, which is much more likely to contain parasites, and to go for farmed fish, which in this part of the world, due to the standards upheld by the farms, is virtually free of parasite contamination. 'Sushi/sashimi grade' is nothing more than marketing blurb and doesn't actually mean anything. At worst it's just an excuse to charge you more for the same stuff, but it may ensure a higher standard of handling/preparation. At least in the US, it may also mean the fish has been flash-frozen to further reduce/eliminate the already small risk of parasite contamination, but some would say that freezing is to the detriment of the texture and taste of the raw fish. All I've ever seen to the contrary is unfounded 'Oooh no you musn't or you'll get sick' sort of nonsense claims, which I pretty much disregard.

I have a local market trader I trust to provide decent fish, but some market traders I would be very wary of eating raw fish from due to a lack of refrigeration/ice, a smell indicating lack of freshness, and seeing the same hands picking up the fish and handling money, etc etc. You could try Atari-ya who supply a lot of Japanese restaurants - you would at least get a better choice of fish and cuts (fatty belly cuts are much more desirable) than a supermarket. All I normally get from the supermarket is salmon, tuna, and swordfish. And of course Billingsgate is a great source too. Any supplier you consider, I would suggest you talk to them about it if only to sound them out. If they're reputable they will be more than happy to talk knowledgably about it. If they are cagey, clueless, or you detect BS, just go somewhere else. Ultimately, just as when you go to a restaurant, it's a matter of trusting in an adequate level of quality and care - there's no real black and white assurances/certificates/rules.

I've been on a short sushi course with the wife, which was fun, but I normally can't be bothered with all that - nothing better than just slicing the fish and eating it sashimi style with soy sauce and wasabi. Mmmmmmmmm :).
 
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Ditto, made plenty of sushi using raw tuna and salmon from waitrose and morrisons.

Few pics of some I've made.

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Good looking sushi there LiE!

I can certainly speak for Sainsbury when it comes to using fresh, raw produce. A while back I made some raw sushimi using Tuna steak and salmon, I've also prepared sushi using raw scallops. I think the biggest risk factor isn't with buying it over the counter but making sure it doesn't stay above a temperature of about 20oC before you get it home, to help avoid this, the guy at the counter was more than happy to pack it with ice. I've done this a few times and never got ill. If you want to play it safe, in case your local fish counter isn't as well kept as mine, I'd take home some raw scallops first, or perhaps even oysters, as it's very easy to tell if they are off. You can obviously always be safe using raw smoked salmon and a small tuna steak can't really hurt.
 
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